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#16 brr

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Posted May 26 2009 - 10:04 AM

View Postfrancesco, on May 26 2009, 06:56 PM, said:

Excuse me,but i have not understood.This AI is also for 66 ,65 ,69 or only for 67?

It seems to run with the mods, but probably not as well as with 67.

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Posted May 27 2009 - 01:08 AM

View Postbrr, on May 26 2009, 11:04 AM, said:

View Postfrancesco, on May 26 2009, 06:56 PM, said:

Excuse me,but i have not understood.This AI is also for 66 ,65 ,69 or only for 67?

It seems to run with the mods, but probably not as well as with 67.

The suggestion is to apply this AI to the 67,on the other mods is a test?I know that there is a difference betwen the Ai of 67 and 66,69,65 especially in the behaviour of the pilots.In the 66mod they are to aggressive in closing the path for example.

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Posted May 27 2009 - 01:16 AM

View Postfrancesco, on May 27 2009, 10:08 AM, said:

View Postbrr, on May 26 2009, 11:04 AM, said:

View Postfrancesco, on May 26 2009, 06:56 PM, said:

Excuse me,but i have not understood.This AI is also for 66 ,65 ,69 or only for 67?

It seems to run with the mods, but probably not as well as with 67.

The suggestion is to apply this AI to the 67,on the other mods is a test?I know that there is a difference betwen the Ai of 67 and 66,69,65 especially in the behaviour of the pilots.In the 66mod they are to aggressive in closing the path for example.

"60 fps AI for testing" is the topic title, so consider this a testing version in every case. Try it out and see if it works well enough for you. Its easy to install and uninstall.

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Posted May 27 2009 - 02:26 AM

View Postbrr, on May 27 2009, 02:16 AM, said:

View Postfrancesco, on May 27 2009, 10:08 AM, said:

View Postbrr, on May 26 2009, 11:04 AM, said:

View Postfrancesco, on May 26 2009, 06:56 PM, said:

Excuse me,but i have not understood.This AI is also for 66 ,65 ,69 or only for 67?

It seems to run with the mods, but probably not as well as with 67.

The suggestion is to apply this AI to the 67,on the other mods is a test?I know that there is a difference betwen the Ai of 67 and 66,69,65 especially in the behaviour of the pilots.In the 66mod they are to aggressive in closing the path for example.

"60 fps AI for testing" is the topic title, so consider this a testing version in every case. Try it out and see if it works well enough for you. Its easy to install and uninstall.
OK,thank you

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Posted May 27 2009 - 08:32 AM

A huge thanks to brr for this and all the other fabulous developments he has brought to GPL.

Just run several races against the AI at Monza and Silverstone and all seems well to me. The odd abrupt line change but nothing drastic. Superb!

Now we just need GPLRA "cracking" for 60fps.

Happy lapping

Martin

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Posted May 27 2009 - 08:49 AM

View Postmdw1961, on May 27 2009, 07:32 AM, said:

A huge thanks to brr for this and all the other fabulous developments he has brought to GPL.

Just run several races against the AI at Monza and Silverstone and all seems well to me. The odd abrupt line change but nothing drastic. Superb!

Now we just need GPLRA "cracking" for 60fps.

Happy lapping

Martin

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Posted Jun 04 2009 - 06:22 AM

nice. getting there slowly but surely :)

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Posted Jun 08 2009 - 06:06 AM

Its a thing of beauty... thankyou brr!!!!  :thumbup:

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Posted Jun 09 2009 - 12:16 PM

Hi Brrr

I've tested the 60fps ai patch on my favorite circuit, Monza 10k, and I've noticed a strange thing:
the ai works properly on the road circuit marking good times and driving fast but when drivers reach the bankings (northern and then southern one) they immediately slow down and go 2 gears under the necessary, so their times are of about a minute more than a normal one ( 3'18"...) . I wanted to evidence this problem only because you asked for any suggestion in the readme and because I really appreciate this patch, Gpl is really better with that.
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Posted Jun 09 2009 - 12:35 PM

View Postleon_90, on Jun 9 2009, 09:16 PM, said:

Hi Brrr

I've tested the 60fps ai patch on my favorite circuit, Monza 10k, and I've noticed a strange thing:
the ai works properly on the road circuit marking good times and driving fast but when drivers reach the bankings (northern and then southern one) they immediately slow down and go 2 gears under the necessary, so their times are of about a minute more than a normal one ( 3'18"...) . I wanted to evidence this problem only because you asked for any suggestion in the readme and because I really appreciate this patch, Gpl is really better with that.
Thanks

Was this with 67 cars, or some mod? How do the AI drive without the 60fps patch applied?

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Posted Jun 09 2009 - 12:47 PM

it was first with 66 mod and then with 67 original version. Without the patch the ai works properly, no errors. Only when the patch is applied the ai seems to be affected by "banking-fobia" XD

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Posted Jun 09 2009 - 01:09 PM

View Postleon_90, on Jun 9 2009, 09:47 PM, said:

it was first with 66 mod and then with 67 original version. Without the patch the ai works properly, no errors. Only when the patch is applied the ai seems to be affected by "banking-fobia" XD

60fps mod AI shoud not be taken seriously, because the mod patches overlap with 60fps ai patch in a way that is not planned. I think the AI behaviour you ran into is caused by a known problem with 60fps AI. Initially I changed all the values in the gpl_ai.ini to correspond to 60fps, but then the AI could not keep on track. The gpl_ai.ini which came with the patch increases traction, but apparently not enough for situations like the banking at Monza. Try with the original gpl_ai.ini, it has much more traction which I think will help. In a brief test I got normal laptimes with 60fps AI in 67 cars at monza10k.

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Posted Jun 09 2009 - 01:27 PM

60fps mod AI shoud not be taken seriously, because the mod patches overlap with 60fps ai patch in a way that is not planned. I think the AI behaviour you ran into is caused by a known problem with 60fps AI. Initially I changed all the values in the gpl_ai.ini to correspond to 60fps, but then the AI could not keep on track. The gpl_ai.ini which came with the patch increases traction, but apparently not enough for situations like the banking at Monza. Try with the original gpl_ai.ini, it has much more traction which I think will help. In a brief test I got normal laptimes with 60fps AI in 67 cars at monza10k.
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I've tried now with 66 mod following your instructions... nothing good Brrr. Drivers increased their laps of 3 seconds, more or less, but they are still afraid of bankings. I'll try with 67 version.

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Posted Jun 09 2009 - 01:44 PM

View Postleon_90, on Jun 9 2009, 10:27 PM, said:

I've tried now with 66 mod following your instructions... nothing good Brrr. Drivers increased their laps of 3 seconds, more or less, but they are still afraid of bankings. I'll try with 67 version.

It would be better to concentrate on the 67 only with 60fps AI, as far as reporting things goes. Mods with 60fps AI have the extra problems I described in the previous post, which will not be solved until 67 works ok.

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Posted Jun 10 2009 - 01:07 AM

I quite like the somewhat erratic and quick-reactioned AI.... makes me think I am driving online again! :D

Its well worth it to play this game in 60fps. Thanks again brr!

Edited by orville944, Jun 10 2009 - 01:09 AM.





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