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#1 pbearsailor

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Posted Mar 03 2009 - 03:33 PM

Here are some tracks that work well with the cars of P&G:


  Amaroo Park
  Aintree
  Albi67 Special P&G Edition
  Albi 67

  Birmingham
  Brands Hatch from Race
  Early Brands Hatch
  Bremgarten 1954
  Bridgehampton 67
  Brno '65
  Bryar Motorsports Park

  Crystal Palace
  Cadwell Park
  Charade 70

  Daytona 70 Road Course
  Dessauer Rennstrecke 1952
  Dessauer Rennstrecke

  East London

  Fuji 1970
  Falkenberg

  Goodwood
  GPC Watkins Glen 79
  GPC Monza 79
  GPC Zandvoort 79
  GPC Interlagos
  GPC Silverstone 79 1.2
  Grenzlandring 1979 Revival

  Halle-Saale-Schleife
  60s79Hockenheim

  Jyllandsringen 1966

  Kassel Calden
  Kyalami 70
  Kyalami 75

  Laguna Seca
  Lime Rock
  Lime Rock Mountain
  LeMans 67
  Le Mans 70
  60 LeMans
  Longford 67
  Leipzig 67
  

  Montjuich Park
  Mosport 67
  Mosport 77
  Monza 60's
  Monza 75
  Monza 10K 70's
  Mexico 67
  Mallory Park

  Nassau Speed Weeks
  Nelson Ledges
  Nordschliefe 70
  Nordschleife 2007
  75 Nordschleife

  Ostereichring 1979
  Oulton Park 60's

  Pembrey 67
  67 Panorama
  Preluk1974

  Road Atlanta (Noonan)
  Roskilde Ring
  Rouen
  Riverside 70
  Road America 67
  Reims

  Spa 67
  Sachsenring 67
  Snetterton 64
  70's Silverstone
  Solitude 64
  Sebring 70
  Stardust International Raceway
  SchottenRing67
  75 Silverstone
  

  Talladega Road Course
  Thompson Raceway 62

  Virginia International Raceway
  Virtua Lemans Fuji
  Virtua Lemans 77-79
  Virtua Lemans Mid Ohio
  Virtua Lemans Rouen
  Virtua Lemans Sebring
  Vaca Valley Raceway '65

  Warwick Farm
  Willow Springs
  Westwood 88
  Watkins Glen 67
  75Watkins

Fictional (but good!):
  Machwerk 67
  Col de Joux Plane
  Lienz 24 Hour
  Hilltop


Don't forget jgf's track loading screens here.


Please make suggestions for additions to the list.  Please don't make this thread a wish list for tracks that are not available.

cheers,
steve

Edited by pbearsailor, Oct 27 2012 - 04:02 PM.


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Posted Mar 24 2009 - 12:56 PM

Thanks for this list! That should already keep me busy for a while... :P

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Posted Mar 24 2009 - 06:31 PM

Oulton Park should be added to that list, and bolded.
Brilliant track for P&G.

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Posted Mar 24 2009 - 06:56 PM

View PostJimM, on Mar 24 2009, 04:31 PM, said:

Oulton Park should be added to that list, and bolded.
Brilliant track for P&G.

I agree Jim, but which one?  It's one of those tracks where I've got several versions and don't really have an opinion on which one I should link.

Same thing with Brands Hatch.  I like the one from Race, but I think it's a fps hog on a lot of systems.

Wish we had GTR2 quality versions of the GPL tracks from both places.  I still like them the best.

Give me some input on which version of Oulton (and Brands for that matter) you like the best and I'll add it to my post.

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Posted Mar 24 2009 - 07:29 PM

My favorite is Oulton Classic...International without the chicanes.
That fast sweeper (can't remember the name of the turn) after the long downhill straight is too much fun in a Cortina or Abarth...or RSR for that matter. The chicaned versions of the track are fine too...but the Classic version reflects more the time before chicane blight hit tracks around the world, and more in line with what P&G is all about.

I'd preferre an even older version with weeds at the apexes instead of striped curbing, but for now the 2005 version will have to do.

http://www.nogriprac...hp?filenr=15345

I've been having a blast there recently.


I myself am still looking for a Brands that is reasonably accurate, not ugly, and with good FPS.

Also, we have Knockhill now, and while I haven't had a chance to boot it up yet, everyone says it's excellent.
Eventually, I'd like the striped curbing banished from every track in my P&G collection...it's just wrong for the sim.

Edited by JimM, Mar 24 2009 - 07:41 PM.


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Posted Mar 25 2009 - 04:16 AM

View PostJimM, on Mar 25 2009, 12:29 PM, said:

My favorite is Oulton Classic...International without the chicanes.
That fast sweeper (can't remember the name of the turn) after the long downhill straight is too much fun in a Cortina or Abarth...or RSR for that matter. The chicaned versions of the track are fine too...but the Classic version reflects more the time before chicane blight hit tracks around the world, and more in line with what P&G is all about.

Personal choice of course, but I prefer the long 'Oulton Park' layout (of 3) in MotorFX and philrob's (v2.01) GTR2 version.  Yes it has chicanes, but the track width and occasional bumps seem more in keeping with a 60s circuit and also lead to more intense dicing (especially if you're in one of the less nimble drives - like a MkII Jag!).  I found the 2005 version had a much more modern feel due to its smoother and wider tarmac.

I'd add Mallory Park, Zolder, Sebring, 10k Monza, Montlhery and an older version of the Nordschleiffe ('the Mother') to Steve's list, given the ever expaning field of 'endurance' (as opposed to 'touring') cars now available in PnG.
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Posted Mar 25 2009 - 05:46 AM

View PostPortia911, on Mar 25 2009, 11:16 AM, said:

View PostJimM, on Mar 25 2009, 12:29 PM, said:

My favorite is Oulton Classic...International without the chicanes.
That fast sweeper (can't remember the name of the turn) after the long downhill straight is too much fun in a Cortina or Abarth...or RSR for that matter. The chicaned versions of the track are fine too...but the Classic version reflects more the time before chicane blight hit tracks around the world, and more in line with what P&G is all about.

Personal choice of course, but I prefer the long 'Oulton Park' layout (of 3) in MotorFX and philrob's (v2.01) GTR2 version.  Yes it has chicanes, but the track width and occasional bumps seem more in keeping with a 60s circuit and also lead to more intense dicing (especially if you're in one of the less nimble drives - like a MkII Jag!).  I found the 2005 version had a much more modern feel due to its smoother and wider tarmac.

I'd add Mallory Park, Zolder, Sebring, 10k Monza, Montlhery and an older version of the Nordschleiffe ('the Mother') to Steve's list, given the ever expaning field of 'endurance' (as opposed to 'touring') cars now available in PnG.
:)

Have you got a link to Montlhery?,does it have the chicane on the banking (not used during the sportscar races,but I'd take it anyway ;) )
Does the 10k Monza have the chicanes?

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Posted Mar 25 2009 - 07:44 AM

View PostPortia911, on Mar 25 2009, 02:16 AM, said:

Personal choice of course, but I prefer the long 'Oulton Park' layout (of 3) in MotorFX and philrob's (v2.01) GTR2 version.  Yes it has chicanes, but the track width and occasional bumps seem more in keeping with a 60s circuit and also lead to more intense dicing (especially if you're in one of the less nimble drives - like a MkII Jag!).  I found the 2005 version had a much more modern feel due to its smoother and wider tarmac.

Never tried it...I'll give it a go.

Edit...Ok, gave it a whirl with the Abarth GR5. I think I agree with you for the most part...the only caveat being that I miss the fast right-hand sweeper. The second chicane ruins that turn. All in all, more in the flavor of P&G though - good call!

Edited by JimM, Mar 25 2009 - 11:07 AM.


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Posted Mar 25 2009 - 12:03 PM

I have to agree on Mallory Park
http://www.pilsbierb...d,1626/lang,en/

Its a fantastic simple little club circuit. The cameras are horrible though :(

Edited by HR186S, Mar 25 2009 - 12:04 PM.


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Posted Mar 25 2009 - 01:32 PM

Monaco could be good if you wan't to drive street circuit. I'm not sure though if this is same layout as it was in 60's, or even if they drove this kind of cars there.

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Posted Mar 25 2009 - 06:55 PM

View PostC-one, on Mar 25 2009, 10:46 PM, said:

Have you got a link to Montlhery?,does it have the chicane on the banking (not used during the sportscar races,but I'd take it anyway ;) )
Does the 10k Monza have the chicanes?


http://www.nogriprac....php?filenr=963
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Yep - chicane on the banking at Montlhery.  And even this version isn't as long as track maps I've seen from that era ... but much better than nothing!
The Monza 10k I have unfortunately has chicanes (I think the 'Brianza' 10k layout is essentially the same).  Actually I've seen a pic of a late 60s sportscar race at the banked Monza with a real 'bus-stop' style chicane at the end of the pits immediately before you start onto the banking ... but that isn't in any version of the track I've come across.  Sadly the only chicane-free version of the 'flat' Monza layout is the original in GPL.  A conversion of this was made to a very rough 'beta' release for GTR2, but it hasn't been finished.  Lots of threads around on this subject.

Forgot to add the older (and longer) version of 'Charade' (Clermond-Ferrand) as another PnG suited circuit.

Edited by Portia911, Mar 25 2009 - 07:04 PM.


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Posted Mar 25 2009 - 07:13 PM

View PostJimM, on Mar 26 2009, 12:44 AM, said:

Never tried it...I'll give it a go.

Edit...Ok, gave it a whirl with the Abarth GR5. I think I agree with you for the most part...the only caveat being that I miss the fast right-hand sweeper. The second chicane ruins that turn. All in all, more in the flavor of P&G though - good call!

:D
cheers Jim.  Yes, you have to sacrifice the sweeper ... but (especially in your car of choice), you might enjoy carving up some of the bigger cars in the tight confines of that particular chicane.  I haven't driven the Abarth a lot there, but the Minis are a hoot to brake-late, grab some curb and flick through there - certainly possible to embarrass an unsuspecting Cortina at that complex!   ;)

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Posted Mar 26 2009 - 04:07 AM

Dowloading now!

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Posted Mar 27 2009 - 06:03 PM

Hmm Monza 10km  :D

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Posted Mar 28 2009 - 12:39 AM

Hi Steve and everyone. :wave:

Here are a few tracks that I think work well with the smaller P&G cars like the Alfa, Cortina, Abarth, etc. Though some of the bigger cars would work with some of these tracks too(like Avus67 which would be better for the faster cars). All are available at No Grip/Downloads/GTR2 Tracks. I believe all of these tracks were in use in the 60s.

Ahvenisto
Albi 67
Avus67
Castle Combe w/o chicane
Gellerasen(Karlskoga)
Keimola
Kinnekulle
Oran Park
Pukekohe
St. Jovite


@ Pilsbierbude

Lakeside



Here are some tracks that were built after the 60s, that are very fitting too. @ No Grip

Alastaro
Botniaring
Knockhill
Kemora
Linkoping
Westwood 1988


Here are some others that were built in the 60s/70s that are available for GTR2/P&G. The layouts aren't exactly the same as they were then, but would still be good. @ No Grip

Phillip Island
Teretonga
Vallelunga


Sorry if there are any repeats and for not linking each track, but I am too tired to continue tonight.  :zz:


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