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#1 F1FanWoodsie

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Posted Jan 12 2007 - 05:18 PM

Hello!  Just surfing around on a few different sites today and came across some very interesting circuits that I thought I should request.

The first of these is known as Lobethal.  Used in the 1930s, those that have raced on it and heard of it consider it one of the greatest circuits ever (ranking up there with Spa, which had a similar feel at that time).  In Australia, it's long since been forgotten; it's sweeping turns and long straights, its potential that never came to fruition because of the war.  Great article on it here: http://groups.msn.co.../lobethal1.msnw

Another circuit I thought was very interesting was in Italy, in Jarno Trulli's hometown.  Pescara held a couple of Grands Prix, I believe.  And with it's four mile-long backstretch, Fangio was clocked at over 192 mph in 1950!  They said it was a very beautiful circuit that ran through the small Italian towns and, with a length besting 15 miles, it's the longest circuit to have ever been raced in Formula 1.  Are these facts correct?  I would definitely love to see this one done.

I didn't find this on the internet today, but I've heard of it before:  Supposedly Fiat had a small testing oval located on the roof of a building in Milan; I think that would be interesting to race, even if it IS rather small.

Finally, and these may be quite daunting, but is there anywhere I could download or someone could make either the 1906 Le Mans circuit (location of the first Grand Prix...I know it's horrendously long), or the 1907 Dieppe circuit (slightly shorter, I believe?  That would be great to see, screaming through those small towns and out into the countryside along primative roads.

Just thought I'd throw those out there.  Thanks!!

P.S.  Mr. Speed, is there perhaps an update on the Greenwood Circuit in Iowa?

EDIT:  I see on the GPL++The Addons site that Lobethal is under construction, as is Pescara.  Thanks!

Edited by F1FanWoodsie, Jan 12 2007 - 05:29 PM.


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Posted Jan 12 2007 - 06:40 PM

View PostF1FanWoodsie, on Jan 12 2007, 11:18 PM, said:

I didn't find this on the internet today, but I've heard of it before:  Supposedly Fiat had a small testing oval located on the roof of a building in Milan; I think that would be interesting to race, even if it IS rather small.
You may want to have a look at The Alternative GPL Track Database. ;)



A slightly later Dieppe is being worked on but it's still a loooooong wait for that one.

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Posted Jan 13 2007 - 09:57 AM

View Postdangermouse, on Jan 13 2007, 01:40 AM, said:

View PostF1FanWoodsie, on Jan 12 2007, 11:18 PM, said:

Supposedly Fiat had a small testing oval located on the roof of a building in Milan; I think that would be interesting to race, even if it IS rather small.
You may want to have a look at The Alternative GPL Track Database. ;)
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What you are looking fore = Lingotto http://gpltd.bcsims.com/?dis=L
But I don't think you will find it interesting :P

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Posted Jan 13 2007 - 11:51 AM

...and is in Torino, not Milan , maybe that's why you didn't find it on the internet  ;)

Edited by Ginetto, Jan 13 2007 - 11:52 AM.


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Posted Jan 13 2007 - 05:31 PM

View PostGinetto, on Jan 13 2007, 11:51 AM, said:

...and is in Torino, not Milan , maybe that's why you didn't find it on the internet  ;)

Ah yes, that's right, I remember that now, but when I said I didn't find it on the internet, I meant I had been thinking about that one for awhile rather than seeing something about it on the internet.  I think the Today Show did a little segment on it with Katie Couric walking around part of it; that makes sense, now, since the Olympics (which they were covering) were in Torino... :oops:

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Posted Jan 13 2007 - 05:43 PM

Oh and thanks!!

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Posted Jan 13 2007 - 07:34 PM

View PostPedro, on Jan 13 2007, 03:57 PM, said:

View Postdangermouse, on Jan 13 2007, 01:40 AM, said:

View PostF1FanWoodsie, on Jan 12 2007, 11:18 PM, said:

Supposedly Fiat had a small testing oval located on the roof of a building in Milan; I think that would be interesting to race, even if it IS rather small.
You may want to have a look at The Alternative GPL Track Database. ;)
:wave:

What you are looking fore = Lingotto http://gpltd.bcsims.com/?dis=L
But I don't think you will find it interesting :P
If you click on my link, you'll find it takes you directly to the track at the database.


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Posted Jan 22 2007 - 09:06 PM

Ooh I just found another interesting one, but sadly I know nothing about its history.  How about the road circuit of Hohnstein?

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Posted Jan 23 2007 - 05:06 PM

View PostF1FanWoodsie, on Jan 23 2007, 03:06 AM, said:

Ooh I just found another interesting one, but sadly I know nothing about its history.  How about the road circuit of Hohnstein?
:huh: You missed out the links.....



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Posted Jan 23 2007 - 10:28 PM

Think Germany one also thinks Audi  :P
http://translate.goo...e...cial&hs=51t
Down at the bottom of the ring.
Now what you'll find out is that Hohenstein-Ernstthal is the same place indeed Sachsenring, near Chemnitz but a different track. The town of Hohnstein near the Deutschlandring is further to the east, between Dresden and the Czech border.
Cheers Quattro   :thumbup:

Edited by Quattro, Jan 23 2007 - 11:12 PM.


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Posted Mar 30 2009 - 05:27 AM

My personal wishlist:

Sitges Terramar, Spain

Lobethal, Australia

Ain Diab, Morocco

Full & complete versions of Pescara & Isle Of Mann would make the list but I think they are already 'works in progress'

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Posted Mar 30 2009 - 09:29 AM

Sitges rocks!

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Edited by Kanzo, Mar 30 2009 - 09:32 AM.


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Posted Mar 30 2009 - 09:57 AM

View PostKanzo, on Mar 30 2009, 05:29 PM, said:

Sitges rocks!


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Posted Mar 30 2009 - 10:55 AM

Yes Sitges would be awesome to have in GPL!

Here is an interesting site with some cool pics. :thumbup:

http://users.telenet...s.bvba1/sitges/

Another track that I know has been requested before and explainations have been give to it's progress but I will say it again.....Longford. I know the Tasman team has been working on this one for a long time and it keeps getting put on the 'back burner' because of real life or other projects, but it's one that I have been really looking forward to since I first saw the Tasman site 5 years ago.

Here's hoping that time is found for this project this year. :please:

http://www.tasman-se...pl/longford.asp

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Posted Mar 30 2009 - 12:11 PM

Sitges

http://www.craksraci...m...icle&sid=76
http://alvolante.ifr.../autodromo.html
http://www.circuitso...gesEnglish.html
http://www.circuitso...ils.php?album=3
http://www.gdecarli....var1=226&var2=2

:)

Lobethal
http://www.circuitso...halEnglish.html
http://www.the-fastl...thal/index.html

:)

Ain Diab
http://www.circuitso...iabEnglish.html
http://jbbassibey.free.fr/ain_diab.htm
http://jbbassibey.fr...g- ain_diab.htm
http://www.gdecarli....var1=642&var2=2

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Posted Mar 30 2009 - 01:03 PM

My 'wish list' just keeps getting bigger!  Sudschlief, Deutchlandring, Pescara, Lobethal, Longford - and now Sitges and Ain Diab!  Bearing in mind the horrendous amount of work involved in making a long circuit I suppose we may never see most of them released, although Sitges and Ain Diab look to be 'doable'.  I would also add a plaintive plea for the old Modena Aeroautodromo, which was released as an alpha but withdrawn.  It looks small enough to (almost) temp me into trying to learn how to make a circuit!

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Posted Apr 30 2009 - 06:07 AM

There's plenty of really good photos of Sitges there from both it's active era as well as what's left today. For those that know how, I can't see it being a difficult track to create.

Be good to see that genius 'Sergio' turn his eye towards this thread....... :)

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Posted Apr 30 2009 - 06:39 AM

Pescara

Benzman - I definetly remember reading a thread on the RSC regarding this track. Apparently it has had a lot of work done on it (and is not related to the basic version on the Track Database). Whoever was making it was currently working on Targa and would return to Pescara when Targa was released.

Thats purely from memory by the way, i hope someone could confirm whether that is the case?

If that is the case then that is certainly a release i would look forward to.

Personally i would love to see Pescara finished for GPL as its a genuine F1 circuit and has a couple of very long straights where you would be able to really open the cars up.

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Posted Apr 30 2009 - 02:52 PM

PEDRALBES 1951 ! ! !

Anybody are working on this track ? ? ?

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Posted May 03 2009 - 01:23 PM

Pescara (not the Segio Loro alpha version) was started by me some time ago and the, norx took the control, specially with visual information (once he lives there).

Very likely Ginetto, Sergio Loro, Paul Skingley and others from the team must concentrate their efforts to finish the project of the longest track ever used by the F1.



Few brazilian tracks have some development started and are still in a basic state, most only with the track layout done (similar to Zandvoort 1939 and Sergio's Pescara)
It includes Taruma, Santa Cruz do Sul and Curitiba, having also Brasilia and Guapore in second plane. All these tracks have no prediction about release date.




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