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[Bill]

I would like to hear some thoughts on the ranking system that is being worked on.
We have 2 options.
We can incorperate the ratings we managed to get ahold of in our ranking system and continue on.
Or we can start from scratch with out any ranking info used.
I would like to hear everyones thoughts on this so I know which route to take.

[pirenzo]

I think its best to incorporate the existing rankings, as it will take a long while for those votes to be reaccumulated, especially for the older tracks.

[FloP]

I agree, it would seem much more sensible to include the older ratings, also because tracks are generally rated best as long as they're new and some of the slightly aged gems that have been produced over the years might not get as good an overall rating as they'd deserve.

[Ginetto]

First option too, I'm agree with flop and pirenzo
great work so far Bill, indeed  

[Bill]

Ratings have been enabled, it has been tested and should be free of errors.
Post any problems.
Thanks to Benard for all the help in this area.

[Ginetto]

Great,
I've seen that in the ratings page the votes are in percentage... consequently the other ratings are misswrote( is it a word?), I've seen my track having 150% of fun rating hehehe cool!!! ahahhaah
Ciao!

[Bernd Nowak]

Ginetto, on Jul 23 2006, 04:26 AM, said:

Great,
I've seen that in the ratings page the votes are in percentage... consequently the other ratings are misswrote( is it a word?), I've seen my track having 150% of fun rating hehehe cool!!! ahahhaah
Ciao!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Sorry to take away the fun but it was an error. I fixed but sorry to say you should not have over 100% even if you and others deserve this high rating

[pirenzo]

Thanks Bill and Bernd

Very slick system with the sliders etc.

Took me a while to get it to work mind you, turns out my firewall was blocking something.  

One thing I find slightly odd though:
Fun rating makes sense, graphical rating makes sense, but the general rating doesn't make sense to me.  What is it a judge of?  
Surely, the only two that matter are graphics and how much fun it is?
I suppose the third rating adds a bit of bias to the overal average if say the graphics are bad but the track is so much fun it warrants a better average rating.  That's all I can really think of it representing...

[Ginetto]

Indeed the slides are maybe too much.
The 3 option you had at Magnus' database was enough to me
Ciao!

Edited by Ginetto, Jul 25 2006 - 08:27 AM.

[pirenzo]

No no, I like the sliders, they're cool.

Actually this is making more sense now you've mentioned the old ratings system at the trackDB.

They were (IIRC) fun rating, graphical rating and recommendation rating, i.e. would you recommend the track to someone else or not.

The 'rating' rating employed at GPLTD would make a great deal more sense if renamed something like recommendation IMO (or at least a neater word of the same effect)

[Bernd Nowak]

Somehow, traveling through the internet GPL world I stumpled across the meaning of the 3rd one but somehow I had something other to do and suddenly it was gone. Happened over the last week and I wanted to correct it as it's only the naming for it.
The 'Overall' rating which is build as a sum of your choices / divided by the number of choices is only an mathematical 'Overall' of your choice or better the sum of all votes (choices) for a given track.

If I would be able to find this again. Maybe in the google archive system ?

[Ginetto]

At Magnus site was:

Must have rating
Fun rating
Graphical rating

[Bernd Nowak]

Thanks Ginetto ! Will change it now
Changed

Edited by Bernd Nowak, Jul 25 2006 - 10:31 AM.

[Ginetto]

If you want to use bars, the way you did is sure the only way  

But I remember the votes given just with pure numbers appearing to me more undestandable; # of votes is not a qualifier, since the number of votes can depend on how long the track has been in existence.

Another thing I remember is that Magnus didn't let a track appear in the ranking until it had 10 votes and the number was red until the votes were 25.

Here 3 pics to remind it better:
 pic011.png   64.22K   53 downloads see on top left the 'rules'

 pic012.png   62.01K   57 downloads this shows you the red votes when low

 pic010.png   70.64K   66 downloads this is a page of the track descriptions with the markers of the ranking that were intense coloured if top ranking, shadowy if mid and grey if low ranking.

 pic013.png   79.69K   69 downloads this last shows that beta tracks weren't allowed to get into the rating system.

Hope this gives you more hints, not more troubles...

Ciao!

Edited by Ginetto, Jul 30 2006 - 04:09 AM.

[Bernd Nowak]

Thanks a lot Ginetto.
I still like the way with the % for votes as I think it's nice to see how much have voted for a track most and how much not but be sure that I will think about it

Another thing which is great is to disable rating/voting for beta tracks.

The red thing is a good idea too.

Thanks for all those Ginetto and be sure we will incorperate some of the original things.