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#1 Bo Bruce

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Posted May 10 2019 - 06:26 PM

running win10..
8gB ram
18gB of free HD space

video card is old
IRQ 16    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650

Sound card (the soundchip on MoBo was horrid)
IRQ 17    Creative SB Audigy 2 (WDM)

of late, my PC has been randomly rebooting after the blue screen of death.
each time telling me a different problem.
the tech i go to says he thinks it is a driver issue, but doesn't know WHICH driver! so?
am i to update video card, sound card and what else? once this happened even when the PC was sitting idle, nothing was open!

i'm not smart enough to know what else to submit for getting help.
win10 does do a memory dump when it happens, but so far the tech guy hasn't found the reason :(

#2 roberto teso

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Posted May 10 2019 - 10:26 PM

Random errors are the most difficult issues to fix.

But if they appears after a long time of regular service they can be focused mainly to some well known causes: failing cooling, defective powering or a defective device, normally a motherboards defect.

You can check using a program like HWMonitor, if all appear normal the other way to pinpoint problems is to swap devices, video card, sound card, memory etc, with good ones, one at time, checking at every step PC reaction.

#3 Millennium

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Posted May 11 2019 - 03:33 AM

Could be lots of things indeed. I would always check the RAM first when I got random blue screens.

https://www.youtube....h?v=UUFcQwlhDnk

Edited by Millennium, May 11 2019 - 03:33 AM.


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Posted May 11 2019 - 03:42 AM

Hi Bo.

I feel your pain. I've had blue screens before and it makes you want to scream.

Problem with this, finding the source can be like trying to find a needle in a hay stack, and can cause your pc to be unstable.

Like I said I have had this issue before and connected up with the PC Help forum.

There are tech experts on that site (link below) who give their assistance free of charge. But you can also donate, if they solve your issue. They have diagnostic tools that you can download and run. Then all you have to do is post the results back in the thread you have posted your issue in. There's different sections covering operating systems and of course a blue screen section. You just need to join up and away you go. Again I've had some great help and results in the past from these people.

https://pchelpforum.net

Hope this helps you out, if you go for it 🤔

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Edited by twinpotter, May 11 2019 - 03:48 AM.


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Posted May 11 2019 - 07:00 AM

With random failures I would first look at all Mobo capacitors, if they have swolen tops or loosing liquids!
Look also for the PSU capacitors but be very carefull as there is very high voltage in it.
https://en.wikipedia...apacitor_plague

#6 Bo Bruce

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Posted May 11 2019 - 02:45 PM

thanks all - was hoping for something simple ;)
i should know better after all the years sitting at a PC :P
good ideas to follow up on - so we'll see what comes of them.

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Posted May 11 2019 - 04:50 PM

I had similar problems last year and it was due to a failing hard drive.

It could also be that windows files have been corrupted.Have you tried using the repair tool in windows 10 ? You can download your version of windows 10 onto a flash drive.It must be 8 gigs or larger. Then go into the settings (update and security) and(Recovery) and you will find (advanced start up) and follow the instructions. This will allow you to boot from the flash drive and you will see options to repair windows. I hope you can get it sorted out.

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Posted May 11 2019 - 05:03 PM

You could also use Windows 10 system file checker .....


System File Checker is a utility in Windows 10 that checks for system file corruption. It's recommended for advanced users. To run it:

In the search box on the taskbar, enter Command Prompt. Press and hold (or right-click) Command Prompt (Desktop app) from the search results and select Run as administrator.
Enter DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth (note the space before each "/"). (Note: This step may take a few minutes to start and up to 30 minutes to run and complete.)
Enter sfc /scannow (note the space between "sfc" and "/").

For more info google .... Using System File Checker in Windows 10

Edited by Ramoats, May 11 2019 - 05:13 PM.


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Posted May 13 2019 - 06:03 AM

All above advices are good but "18 gB of free HD space" seem very little to me; you surely need a new and bigger HD even if the HD is not the cause of your BSOD.

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Posted May 13 2019 - 08:22 AM

View Postginetto, on May 13 2019 - 06:03 AM, said:

All above advices are good but "18 gB of free HD space" seem very little to me; you surely need a new and bigger HD even if the HD is not the cause of your BSOD.
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Posted May 14 2019 - 01:52 PM

Hi Bo :)

Try:
- Testing your HDD with HD Tune (Error Scan): http://www.hdtune.com

- Testing your RAM with Memtest (you need to burn it on CD, reboot your PC and boot from CD): https://www.memtest.org/#downiso

If this booting from CD is a hassle for you, you can try Windows Memory Diagnosic Tool, it's easy to use, but it's not as extensive as Memtest: https://www.cnet.com...iagnostic-tool/

- Testing your GPU RAM with: http://mikelab.kiev....PROGRAMS/vmt_en

It's also a good idea to run TronScript (it removes viruses effectively, cleans temporary files, removes malicious programs, defrags your HDD), but you need to be sure what you are doing, for example it disables Windows spy stuff and some junk browser tools that you might be using:
https://bmrf.org/repos/tron/

Here's a description how to use Tron: https://github.com/b...r/README.md#use

All of this programs are "click to run" and go afk for 3-10 hours...
But before running them, you should do a backup of your important files. If your PC started to act funky, you should do it fast anyway! ;)

Edited by Mateusz Metz, May 14 2019 - 02:01 PM.


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Posted May 15 2019 - 04:03 AM

Bo can you please tell us the full name of your Motherboard.

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Posted May 15 2019 - 08:08 AM

Axel - i would.. if i new where to look .. probably control panel?

Mateusz.. great links! thanks - i'll have a look.

Ginetto -  ok, i moved/deleted some files and am back up to 25gB of free space (on 215gB SSD)  have not had a BSOD since!

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Posted May 15 2019 - 09:54 AM

Just make a snapshot of HWInfo Summary-only and attach it here
https://www.hwinfo.com/

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Posted May 15 2019 - 10:06 AM

25GB of free space is still very little, if it doesn't cause a bsod it will still slow your ssd down by quite a lot. I don't know the exact numbers but it's always wise to keep a large chunk of the capicity free.
Personally I won't even use more than 60%, keeps everyting quick and responsive.

Edited by Millennium, May 15 2019 - 10:14 AM.


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Posted May 15 2019 - 10:07 AM

Oh, any SSD needs allways a minimum of free space left! (~30%)

Read here: https://pureinfotech...nce-slows-down/

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Posted May 15 2019 - 12:01 PM

Alex
does this help?
i'm trying not to download any more new installs


how's this:
manuf=intel corp
product=DH67CL
serial#=BTC22000w9q
version=AAG10212-210

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Posted May 15 2019 - 12:10 PM

HWInfo is portable, no install needed ;)
Sorry can't see the mainboard data...

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Posted May 15 2019 - 04:34 PM

Seems to be this MB

https://ark.intel.co...ard-dh67cl.html

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Posted May 15 2019 - 07:52 PM

The pics I found of this board show lots of old vulnerable capacitors...

So I would open the case and look at each if they look like these:
https://upload.wikim...ndensatoren.jpg




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