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#1 Andy77

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Posted Jul 15 2004 - 08:07 AM

Hi  :)

I dont know whats going on with me. 3 month ago I was close to benchmark times, still in plus but close  :D  . now i�m far far away  :unsure:
ok, i must say i�m a nut when it comes to setups.  :lol: Anyways I go and grab some setups and test em if I can handle or better if i like car behaviour

sometimes setups are called after laptimes . if i compare this times to mine i�m steady around 10 secs away, with some i get the difference down to 8 secs. it annoys me pretty much that i dont seem to be able to get em more down or at least into the regions I was 3 month ago.  :censored:

everytime I go into a practice or race i fuel my car for the needed laps. nothing bad with that . then during the practice/race ive some kind of turning behaviour for 2 or 3 laps . the car is on loose as hell during this time, then it changes back to normal handling . i mean i know that it must change because of loosing weight . but i really wonder that it gets really bad for 2/3 laps but then it handles like before .  :unsure:  :unsure:

well  i thought i share this. maybe someone experienced something similar likes this or knows how to solve

anyways, i�m back to track.........biting into wheel once more  :D  :wave:

cya later  :thumbup:

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Posted Jul 15 2004 - 11:36 AM

a little hope is rising up  :)
i�m only 2secs away from my mexico pb . still beyound good or bad but a little hope  :wave:

weird tho that it is always mexico where I do the first halfway useable laptimes  :blink:  :unsure:

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Posted Jul 15 2004 - 11:58 AM

Don't look to me for answers. Certainly not with my GPL Rank :thumbdown:


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Posted Jul 15 2004 - 12:04 PM

are you around 5500 overall too ?  :D  :wave:

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Posted Jul 15 2004 - 12:13 PM

Just a tad lower :lol:



4600  :shock:


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Posted Jul 15 2004 - 01:00 PM

I find the best way (for me) to get back to my old times is to
not try so hard. I do my best laps after not driving a certain track
for 1 week...strange, but it works like that for me with every game.

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Posted Jul 15 2004 - 01:16 PM

hmmm think i found out why i was that slow. i should better drink beer instead of coffee before trying  :lol:  :D  :lol:

no for real . i´m not pretty sure yet but i seem to be best in qualifying in the first 3 laps . just tried monza and got it down to 2 secs away from pb too
well of races i better dont speek.....rofl  :lol:  :lol:

well waiting a week wont work for me. this is great for learning for technician school but with gpl this dont work for me

lol that must be me, anything i dont understand or get i try over and over again until it works  

anyways enough for today  :beer:  :cheers:  :drunk:

you guys rock  :thumbup:  :wave:

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Posted Jul 16 2004 - 01:20 AM

Hahaha...:D
I suppose drinking beer or coffee before trying to beat your PB's
isn't a good idea. Beer will slow your reaction time and coffee will
put you on edge and make you try to hard.

The only other tip I can give you is...Just be smooth! B)

I beat my Spa PB this morning,
it was 3:20.xx in the Eagle, now it's 3:19.33 in the Brabham.
It took 20 laps to do it and I found the key is always to be smooth
and the racing line isn't always the correct one, especially through Masta.

Catchya Andy... B)

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Posted Jul 16 2004 - 04:49 AM

well beer or coffee is better than bottermilk  :lol:

anyways i seem to have found the right feeling in gas foot again  :D
steering with a little gas makes it sooooo much easier  :D  :wave:

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Posted Jul 16 2004 - 04:57 AM

No no no, butter-milk is much better... :D

Good you've found your groove again.
I wouldn't mind seeing a replay of you driving..? ;)


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Posted Jul 16 2004 - 09:13 AM

yet i´m into touching the above mentioned 10 sec range compared to the best time done with this setup :) even a little under 10  :D
anyways still not fast but close to my formerly pb´s

I´ll make some replays later .
yet fps isnt good because of at least another proggy in the background :)

drunken or not I´ll never touch butter-milk......... :lol:

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Posted Jul 16 2004 - 09:50 AM

:blink: I always drive bad....  :D Nah just kidding, it highly depends on my day, some days i can easyly hit my pbs and improve them others i am struggling to drive 2 s away from them.

Most of the time i go faster if i dont try to hard, but oh well, some times i just stop driving when i see, noo not my day...

:) Now, to the point with the weirdo behaviour with the car, that can happen trough heating the tyres to much, if you push/overbreak or something some tyres get really hot and others dont, so you get weird driving, or the other way round, you cool them to much down ( wich i doubt lol, but it can happen) then the cars starts to feel weird too.

Best thing is check that regular, maybe in a training, or u use tools for that like GPLHoD or Pribluda, wich show you the tyre temps all the time...

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Posted Jul 16 2004 - 10:41 AM

lol that could it be
i´m running pribluda

to get the car speedy into corners i often keep staying lightly on gas when steering in . in bad cases this looks much like rally car driving  :D  :lol:
and the tires getting pretty hot partly then at least pribluda jumps into deep red   :lol:  :lol:


edit: i think that is the cause why often have probs keeping the car straight. at monza for examples ive always probs with braking for parabolica. in most cases the car starts to jump from right to left and back from the rails&fences there while i even didnt steer in.  i tried kind of manual abs breaking but this didnt worked too good either  :wave:

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Posted Jul 24 2004 - 11:52 PM

So I finally managed to take a replay

It is Monza and i used the Cooper. I used practice mode worldchampionship and damage mode novice. setup and replay inside the zip

in this i breaked pretty early and i got time down from 1:37 to 1:35 in the session (11 laps)

i found something out about my wheel which hopefully will help too.

anyways here it is, hopefully it´ll show where the quirks are  :lol:  :wave:

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Posted Jul 25 2004 - 02:06 AM

Cheers mate, I look forward to watching it. :thumbup:

I've never watched a replay of a human driving a Cooper
around Monza before, so it should be interesting and may
inspire me to give the Cooper a go there aswell,
with your setup ofcourse. I doubt I'll beat your time though,
I've little experience with the Coop at 'ol Monza... :)

If I remember, I'll post a replay of me in the Cooper at Monza
and throw in the setup aswell...

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Posted Jul 25 2004 - 03:05 AM

i tried again,

this time without throttle help and autoshifting  :lol:  

dropped time 1sec more into middle 1:34  :D

but that the shifting on my wheel is kinda bad. usually the buttons reacting only after 2nd time pressed. especially when shifting down  :blink:

most prob i guess is that i shift too early yet . i am used to shift after engine sound but the coopers engine sounds same all the time.  :unsure:
anyways the cooper seems to be very good-natured , at least for certain noob tries  :lol:

I tried other setups on the cooper yet too , but the alison hine cooper setups seem to match my style of driving most  :thumbup:

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Posted Jul 25 2004 - 10:40 PM

Ok, just finished doing 7 laps at Monza in the 'ol Cooper with the same setup.
I could have done better lap times, but it was not needed. This was the first
time I've driven the Cooper in 8 or months and the first time at Monza.

Here's my lap times...

#1: 1:38.68 (out lap)
#2: 1.33.93
#3: 1:33.06
#4: 1:32.61
#5: 2:06.89 (spun x2)
#6: 1:33.03
#7: 1:32.35

And my replay...

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Posted Jul 25 2004 - 10:45 PM

With regards to my replay above, you may want to fast forward it at
the start, I usually sit in the pits and warm-up the engine before driving.

I was suprised I went as fast as I did, I can't go faster in the Ferrari. :D

The best thing to learn from replay is the braking and gear shifts.


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Posted Jul 26 2004 - 05:42 AM

The Cooper's actually a nice 'ol car to drive at Monza, just bog slow.
The Ferrari can be quick there but I find it a real dog at Monza to be honest.

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Posted Jul 26 2004 - 11:21 AM

wew AWOL  :thumbup:

i gonna work on the breaking points where i know it could be later

the shifting annoys me really tho. especially before lesmo 1 and parabolica.

think i need a real shifter for that.

other than that ive pretty much hope doing it better soon  :D  ;)

thanks for the replay  :thumbup:

Andy  :wave:




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