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#21 jgf

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Posted Jun 03 2017 - 09:16 PM

View PostM Needforspeed, on Jun 02 2017 - 11:55 AM, said:

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The battle between pure simracers, often oriented with what the new physics engines can offer(rather online or hot lapping approach), and those who want to experiment more what the real drivers of the times cld feel when driving against period opponents ... :rolleyes:

And I am in both camps, so must race twice as much, lol.  As happy replicating a real world season as in staging an F1 race at Mid-Ohio or running the '69 cars at Masaryk.

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Posted Jun 04 2017 - 04:50 AM

View PostM Needforspeed, on Jun 02 2017 - 12:28 PM, said:

View PostAlan Davies, on Jun 02 2017 - 12:03 PM, said:

One install for all mods; except 1966 F2 which is separate because it was a beta and not the finished, polished version.

1966 F2 is a favourite of mine, I love that Renault Alpine.  Are there any plans to finish it?

as you, that' s the only one I did a separate install for, but not having used it often, I didn't remember !  

Is the project still going on, I don't know.

I do hope so it is so much fun fun fun :D

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Posted Jun 06 2017 - 01:43 PM

As usual - appreciation for how people take the time to try to help folks like me :D .

I have ended up with a separate install for the 67 Historical Mod as it felt busy with files and stuff. The rest are in one install.

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Posted Jun 07 2017 - 10:13 AM

Separate installs for each mod for me, with only the Championship tracks and the non championship races for that particular year and the correct event covers and details. Probably a bit more work to set up initially, but as has been said, if I break one mod it won't affect the others.

Also have a general purpose install which has all kinds of stuff installed to try out... it's a real mess :D

Edited by Fat Rich, Jun 07 2017 - 10:14 AM.


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Posted Jun 08 2017 - 02:32 AM

I also have a seperate install for each mod. Mainly for the same reasons as Fat Rich. It results in several but more streamlined installs.

Also, I like to save and keep the replays of both my practice sessions and my race sessions. Sould all mods be in one install, the replay fridge would soon be pretty full ^_^.

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Posted Jun 08 2017 - 04:57 AM

For a single install, replay folders for mods can be kept separate using these patches.

http://srmz.net/inde...showtopic=10264

Just 55 mod missing I think.

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Posted Jun 09 2017 - 12:14 AM

View PostM Needforspeed, on Jun 02 2017 - 10:32 AM, said:

aside, you 'll find below how GEM will display the seven 67 Historical mod "subcarsets".
from left to right, carset 4,1, 2, 3, 5 and below 6 and 7.

Don't take into account the car I selected, as it is a complete separate choice within the 67 historical mod, as for others mods.

Hello NeedforSpeed,

In your GEM-pics, under the optional utilities section, you have a 78m v.01 Spray-option. What does that do and can it be downloaded somewhere?

Thanks,

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Posted Jun 09 2017 - 07:30 AM

View Postwebfoot, on Jun 08 2017 - 04:57 AM, said:

For a single install, replay folders for mods can be kept separate using these patches.

http://srmz.net/inde...showtopic=10264

Just 55 mod missing I think.
I wanted to post to warn that replays are not a problem with only one install, if you use GEM, but thks webfoot to remind us with rcb post about the solution

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Posted Jun 09 2017 - 07:35 AM

View PostTomFitch, on Jun 09 2017 - 12:14 AM, said:

View PostM Needforspeed, on Jun 02 2017 - 10:32 AM, said:

aside, you 'll find below how GEM will display the seven 67 Historical mod "subcarsets".
from left to right, carset 4,1, 2, 3, 5 and below 6 and 7.

Don't take into account the car I selected, as it is a complete separate choice within the 67 historical mod, as for others mods.

Hello NeedforSpeed,

In your GEM-pics, under the optional utilities section, you have a 78m v.01 Spray-option. What does that do and can it be downloaded somewhere?

Thanks,

Tom

It gives the possibility to get spray effect coming out of the rear wheels. Spray can reproduce water when racing on raining conditions, or dust.But presently this patch limitation is that for a complete set of AI's , only some cars will show spray.Afaik,it is still in the experimentation phase, but I am only one of the testers, and all the work  is done by Lee Bowden at the repository.

Anyway, another path toward RL for GPL and its secrets !

Edited by M Needforspeed, Jun 09 2017 - 08:24 AM.


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Posted Jun 09 2017 - 08:19 AM

Not to forget Gilles Maltais, who was pioneering this patch more than ten years ago, when he wanted to implement rainy days conditions. But it stayed a very private thing. I didn 't know how to share it, as it was not a simple xml file to put in your option folder.

Edited by M Needforspeed, Jun 09 2017 - 08:28 AM.


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Posted Jun 09 2017 - 10:18 AM

Thanks for the feedback Needforspeed.

Don't worry about the sharing. I'll wait till Lee works his magic and finishes the add-on.

Cheers,

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Posted Sep 13 2017 - 04:37 AM

Hi guys,

I`ve just come across this thread and I`m actually quite interested in having separate installs for all the different mods for GPL. Not that I have anything against using Gem at all, I just think it may be easier to work with?

Anyway, if I do go down the separate installs route, how is it done? Is it as simple as say, for example, copying over my original GPL install and removing the cars and tracks for that season (which is the original 67 season installed with the Beta 1.08 Installer) and then installing the mod and tracks etc for that season and that`s it or is there more to it than that?

Could Gem still be used for each separate install?

Any info would be appreciated. :)

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Posted Sep 13 2017 - 07:35 AM

My preference has been separate installs, then point GEM+  to them.

To install Mod first install GPL in folder off C-drive using 1.08 Installer, (C\Can-Am\Sierra\GPL, for instance), then run the Mod Install and point it to that folder. Once done with that open GEM+ and connect it to new Mod install.


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Posted Sep 13 2017 - 05:22 PM

Thanks John.

Just wondering though, when GPL is installed from the CD and the v1.08 installer the 67exe, 67 cars and tracks are also installed (obviously) so if I want an install for say, just the 65 mod do I just remove the 67exe and 67 cars and tracks and put in the tracks that were used in the 65 season in reality?

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Posted Sep 14 2017 - 07:24 AM

Once Mod is installed, open GEM+ and point it to the Mod, then with GEM+ select Mod and carset, start Mod and GEM+ will create the Mod specific EXE.

After that you can create a desktop shortcut to that EXE or continue to use GEM+.

Here's some icons:http://srmz.net/inde...topic=12012&hl=

And some more: http://srmz.net/inde...936

Using GEM+ you can then create an accurate Season file with proper tracks.
No need to delete anything.


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Edited by John Woods, Sep 14 2017 - 07:33 AM.


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Posted Sep 14 2017 - 08:44 AM

Ok, I`ll install a fresh GPL with the installer... install the 65 mod. Open Gem etc etc etc.

So I take it that all the tracks needed for the 65 season will have to be installed into that new GPL install... (yes :P) then I make the season file in Gem.

But if I don`t need to delete/remove anything then surely all the 67 tracks and cars will be in that new "65 mod" install and if it`s an install just for the 65 mod then all those 67 tracks and cars aren`t needed?

Forgive the noob questions, just never done it this way before.

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Posted Sep 14 2017 - 09:04 AM

You could do a single install with all OEM and all Mods in same folder.
Many users do that and have been happy to recommend it.

It does not matter how "clean" a folder is because GPL will only call up the files it wants, so when making season folder select the tracks on the left side panel in GEM+ that complete the 65F1 season folder on the right.

As I understand, it is a good idea to install tracks that were not in the 67 season and were in the 65 season before installing the Mod. (After installing GPL and GEM+, then the tracks, then the Mod...this way the correct season file is created with the install).


Also you might want to try Targa, Road America, IOM with the 65s so might want them and others available, just not in the 65 season folder.


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Edited by John Woods, Sep 14 2017 - 09:15 AM.


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Posted Sep 14 2017 - 10:29 AM

Ok, interesting. I`ll experiment a bit with things and see how I get on.

Cheers John. :)

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Posted Sep 17 2017 - 01:25 PM

I`ve not really managed to try separate installs yet guys but I have a simple question... what takes up more disk space? Separate installs for all the mods you want to run or installing all the mods in one GPL folder? I`m ok for disk space but simply curious...

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Posted Sep 17 2017 - 03:30 PM

Tracks are about the only thing that needs duplication, all other files are small compared to that. For perspective my SIERRA folder (all GPL stuff) has 30Gb. The tracks folder in that takes up 12Gb. So about 40%, the rest I wager is mostly car skins, image files being what they are.

I'd go for a single install, use GEM to keep things apart. But its a matter of taste in the end.

Something you could to is use symbolic links to link the track folder from the original install to the mod installs. Sym Links work like shortcuts, but windows sees them as proper folders not as a different object as it does with shortcuts. I'm not sure if GPL plays well with SymLinks though as I never had the need to link a folder for GPL use.

EDIT: Here are some links you may find helpful, regarding symbolic links
http://www.dropboxwi...Command_Prompts
https://technet.micr.../cc753194(WS.10).aspx

Edited by Michkov, Sep 17 2017 - 07:06 PM.






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