Posted Sep 02 2017 - 07:58 PM
Made the mistake of reading the "Dirt - Dirt4" rally thread. Wow... that looks like fun. Over the years I've played two rally "sims". They are:
* Rally Trophy (JoWood Productions, burn date of 2001). Had fun with it, really liked the immersive feeling of it, thought the weather effects and such were fun... but the game play wasn't quite "there". Otherwise, had fun with it for a while.
* Richard Burns Rally (SCI Games, burn date of 2004). Recall it having pretty sophisticated physics/control... but I thought the immersion wasn't quite as good as the above older sim. However, I might try installing it again if you all think it's still pretty much the "go to" Rally sim.
I have an old Logitech Momo FF wheel that has NEVER given me trouble that I intend to use with either the above, or some other rally sim that gets recommended and I find interesting.
Oh, my system is:
Intel Core i7 67000K CPU @ 4.00 Ghz Clock Speed
300gb Solid State Drive (primary)
1TB Hard Drive (secondary)
OS - Win7 Pro 64bit
GeForce GTX 650
Do you think I have enough system to smoothly run one of the "Dirt" rally sims discussed in the thread I mentioned above?
Thanks for any input.
aka Andre Ming
Posted Sep 02 2017 - 11:45 PM
I've tried the first one, very well done and it adds so many cars and tracks that it becomes difficult to try them all.
The second one lately became more for online racing for what I understood but I'm not sure, had many tracks and cars too.
Posted Sep 03 2017 - 02:28 AM
No experience with Dirt 4 though.
Posted Sep 03 2017 - 03:44 AM
Edited by Millennium, Sep 03 2017 - 03:49 AM.
Posted Sep 03 2017 - 10:12 AM
Posted Sep 03 2017 - 12:17 PM
Thanks much for your input. I've spent some time on Youtube looking at the DiRT series, and found video comparisons between it an d RBR. Seems RBR compares favorably with the latest/greatest, with some even saying the physics are right in there or superior to what's currently available. There are also community-created upgrades for it. So, I might install it onto this computer and see how it feels/etc to me now.
As for my gpu: It's a holdover from this machine's previous life. The original motherboard or CPU developed issues, and I decided to replace both. Sort of like "kill 'am all and let God sort 'em out" approach. I have considered replacing the gpu with something more in keeping with it's other capabilities. Seems a shame to choke it with the old GTX 650. The 960 and 970 being referred to, is that also a GTX board? i.e. What name do I do a search for?
Need to also post a question about my Momo FFB wheel... but perhaps it needs its own thread in which forum?
Posted Sep 03 2017 - 01:46 PM
I also love(d) Richard Burns Rally and Rally Trophy (btw it still works with Windows 10).
I can recommend DiRT Rally and DiRT 4 to you.
Both games should work fine on your system, even with your graphics card.
You can adjust both game`s graphics settings so they do even work on lower systems.
Both games are great. DiRT Rally has nicer stages as they are individually created.
DiRT 4 has the nice track generator. But because of this the track sections repeat itself.
So you can recognize the same sections again. DiRT Rally stages are individual.
Edit: Dirt Rally is the better simulation.
<<< System Summary >>>
> Windows 10 Pro
> Mainboard : Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4
> Chipset : AMD 790X
> Processor : AMD Phenom II X6 1055T @ 2400 MHz
> Physical Memory : 8192 MB (4 x 2048 DDR3-SDRAM )
> Video Card : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970
Edited by Stefan Roess, Jan 17 2019 - 02:13 PM.
Posted Sep 03 2017 - 02:12 PM
I ought to just poop can the idea of a rally sim and play with the racing sims that WILL work on this finicky computer!
Posted Sep 03 2017 - 02:38 PM
Edited by twinpotter, Sep 03 2017 - 02:40 PM.
Posted Sep 03 2017 - 02:41 PM
The only problem I had was to set my wheel in game.
Look here for a fix:
"So I fixed that controls settings problem" thread at NoGrip forums:
Edited by Stefan Roess, Sep 04 2017 - 05:02 AM.
Posted Sep 03 2017 - 03:03 PM
Darn. Watching videos of RT on Youtube reminded me how immersive the silly little game was.
Posted Sep 03 2017 - 04:21 PM
Rally trophy works for me on win7 64 bit.
Also a bit more description and symptoms when trying to start RT.
Edited by twinpotter, Sep 03 2017 - 04:23 PM.
Posted Sep 03 2017 - 05:18 PM
I'm running the copied/pasted XP install on my Win 7, so I suspect that's why I can't set my controls within the game. (Having to run automatic transmission on account if I set the controls so I can shift!) However, now that I know it WILL function on this Win 7 machine, I will reinstall onto my primary C drive so it can write the needed things to the registry and delete this copy/paste version off my E drive.
Quick remembrance: Even though RBR is far more sophisticated, for some reason I always kind of enjoyed this little rally sim more than RBR.
Back to the roads of Russia!!
Thanks all for help. I'm sure I'll be back with more questions.
Posted Sep 03 2017 - 07:33 PM
Installed RT onto my primary C drive and it does function and right clicking on the exe within the folder does result in the game launching and being quite playable. However, I cannot set the control options within the game, so I'm stuck using the "Automatic" transmission setting. I hope I don't ever have to back up! Plus, not shifting gears does take away from the experience somewhat.
I had forgotten that you have to place in the top 6 in order to leave a stage (Novice setting) and I'm going to have to rerun the Finland stage. Wish there was an addon that would modify the Championship season so you advance regardless of how you're performing like GPL, or N2003, and other racing sims, will do.
Still, though, it's fun... so I'm going to piddle with playing it for a spell.
Any input/ideas on why I can't set the controls within the game would be much appreciated. (May want to check my "Logitech Momo" thread in the "hardware" forum for more info on that issue.)
Edited by Old Simmer, Sep 03 2017 - 07:33 PM.
Posted Sep 03 2017 - 11:35 PM
The instructions read as if I would need C++ installed? Does that come with Win 7 Pro or will I need to find/install it?
As for RT:
I think I've already reached its limit, in regards to play value. There are only 5 tracks, total. You have to place 6th or better to advance to the next stage. Not very realistic in that respect. In my opinion there should be a championship season, and if you enter the series, you should be able to go through the race schedule and your race results reflect in your championship standing, but you can continue through the season, as is the case in any of the sims I can recall having pursued in the past/present. Of course, there's the rub: This really isn't a sim, it's much more a game.
I've already tried installing Richard Burns Rally, and it will not launch after installing, regardless of whether I try to run it as Administrator, or via compatibility mode/etc. So, trying RBR again is out. Sometimes Win 7 sucks.
So, I may be looking at one of the newer DiRT rally games/sims that can install/run okay on Win 7. However, I will not be interested in that series either if it does not have realistically handled "seasons" to where you sign up for a season and progress through the entire season and your results fall as they may.
Edited by Old Simmer, Sep 03 2017 - 11:35 PM.
Posted Sep 04 2017 - 12:10 AM
Wow... so many questions/things to learn before I plunk out $$ on a Rally sim/game. It's late-thirty though... need to shuffle off to bed.
Posted Sep 04 2017 - 03:12 AM
Edited by Millennium, Sep 04 2017 - 03:12 AM.
Posted Sep 04 2017 - 09:45 AM
Posted Sep 04 2017 - 07:10 PM
I successfully installed RBR and my Logitech Momo on an older XP machine I have, and RBR functions/drives okay. I've been driving with it and piddling. Already passed the Basic Rally School (which unlocks the Rally Season) and then headed off to play on the rally circuit. RBR is as hard as I remembered it. May be a bit too "hard core" for me. Also, the lighting isn't very good. But, it is fun to drive. It will do as I await the prices to come down on one of the newer rally games/sims.
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