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#1 Jack B Nimble

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Posted Nov 18 2021 - 03:48 PM

An interesting video of a 1963, Lotus 27, at Laguna Seca.

Note the use of a helmet visor cam.


Click here:   https://www.youtube....h?v=r4gyXZJW9wI

#2 gliebzeit

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Posted Nov 18 2021 - 05:20 PM

Incredible video!!

Thank you.

#3 Claudio Pablo Navonne

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Posted Nov 19 2021 - 03:06 AM

Wow!!
Thanks!!

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Posted Nov 19 2021 - 03:47 AM

What a scare huh at the entrance of the corkscrew!! :Meter:

Looking at this video, it's clear to me. That mod67 and mod55 are further ahead in physics. Seeing this lotus, even with a small displacement, the pilot needs to surf around the curve, but on a knife edge, things I feel in 67 or 55, and you need to be careful with the accelerator!!! In my opinion, although also pleasurable, the other mods lack something in the acceleration, everything is a little easy, the feeling is of having a traction control, it seems to make things easier.

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Posted Nov 19 2021 - 04:17 AM

The ex manager of Manchester United football club, Sir Alex Ferguson, used a phrase to describe such moments - “squeaky bum time”.

Great recovery and a great video, thanks for posting.

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#6 Stefan Roess

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Posted Nov 19 2021 - 05:24 AM

Thx, good video!

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Posted Nov 19 2021 - 07:26 AM

Mesmerizing.  But I shouldn't watch such things... it's like someone on a  strict diet watching Julia Child.

On a tangent, I'm disposing of my collection of Racer magazine, Vol 1 No 1 through 1998.

#8 paul skingley

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Posted Nov 19 2021 - 08:50 AM

View Postjonny, on Nov 19 2021 - 03:47 AM, said:

Looking at this video, it's clear to me. That mod67 and mod55 are further ahead in physics. Seeing this lotus, even with a small displacement, the pilot needs to surf around the curve, but on a knife edge, things I feel in 67 or 55, and you need to be careful with the accelerator!!! In my opinion, although also pleasurable, the other mods lack something in the acceleration, everything is a little easy, the feeling is of having a traction control, it seems to make things easier.

Even though the 65 physics has less features than modern mods, for me it is the most enjoyable drive in GPL.
While on the subject I think the original 67's feel better than 67X. The later is is easier but has lost the balance.

However I am a big fan of the 55 physics ( and the rest of the mod :) )

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Posted Nov 19 2021 - 09:44 AM

View Postpaul skingley, on Nov 19 2021 - 08:50 AM, said:

Even though the 65 physics has less features than modern mods, for me it is the most enjoyable drive in GPL.

I am with you on that Paul.

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Posted Nov 19 2021 - 03:15 PM

View Postjonny, on Nov 19 2021 - 03:47 AM, said:

What a scare huh at the entrance of the corkscrew!! :Meter:

Looking at this video, it's clear to me. That mod67 and mod55 are further ahead in physics. Seeing this lotus, even with a small displacement, the pilot needs to surf around the curve, but on a knife edge, things I feel in 67 or 55, and you need to be careful with the accelerator!!! In my opinion, although also pleasurable, the other mods lack something in the acceleration, everything is a little easy, the feeling is of having a traction control, it seems to make things easier.
I agree with you!!

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Posted Nov 20 2021 - 10:17 AM

View Postjonny, on Nov 19 2021 - 03:47 AM, said:

What a scare huh at the entrance of the corkscrew!! :Meter:

Looking at this video, it's clear to me. That mod67 and mod55 are further ahead in physics. Seeing this lotus, even with a small displacement, the pilot needs to surf around the curve, but on a knife edge, things I feel in 67 or 55, and you need to be careful with the accelerator!!! In my opinion, although also pleasurable, the other mods lack something in the acceleration, everything is a little easy, the feeling is of having a traction control, it seems to make things easier.

This is something I am focusing on in the development of 67X V3. Although the F1 cars feel pretty good, once you transpose the same physics onto lower powered or lighter cars, they start to feel a bit 'dead' and too easy. I have reached a point where I sort of understand why that is and so driving the F2 Matra is now just as challenging as driving the F1s.

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Posted Nov 20 2021 - 10:55 AM

View Postjonny, on Nov 19 2021 - 03:47 AM, said:

What a scare huh at the entrance of the corkscrew!! :Meter:

Looking at this video, it's clear to me. That mod67 and mod55 are further ahead in physics. Seeing this lotus, even with a small displacement, the pilot needs to surf around the curve, but on a knife edge, things I feel in 67 or 55, and you need to be careful with the accelerator!!! In my opinion, although also pleasurable, the other mods lack something in the acceleration, everything is a little easy, the feeling is of having a traction control, it seems to make things easier.

Is 67 better than 67X in this respect?

Edited by prize, Nov 20 2021 - 11:13 PM.


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Posted Nov 22 2021 - 10:49 AM

View Postprize, on Nov 20 2021 - 10:55 AM, said:

Is 67 better than 67X in this respect?

67 is harder to handle at the edge of grip than 67x, especially the heavier cars.

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Posted Nov 22 2021 - 01:05 PM

View Postentdgc, on Nov 19 2021 - 09:44 AM, said:

I am with you on that Paul.

+1 for driving the 65s.

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Posted Nov 22 2021 - 03:21 PM

View PostPTRACER, on Nov 20 2021 - 10:17 AM, said:

This is something I am focusing on in the development of 67X V3. Although the F1 cars feel pretty good, once you transpose the same physics onto lower powered or lighter cars, they start to feel a bit 'dead' and too easy. I have reached a point where I sort of understand why that is and so driving the F2 Matra is now just as challenging as driving the F1s.

I can't imagine how difficult it is to work on a new physics. See that my comment should be seen as very respectful to those who are willing to create new mods.
  Yes, I see this video of the lotus 27 and realize that there is a difficulty in controlling the power of the wheels, even in this small, low displacement lotus.
  I would really like to participate in some development if I had more technical qualification for that, at the moment I'm slowly developing other tracks and trying to improve with each new job, but it's always very complicated, really.




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