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#1 Tobodestroyer2020

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Posted Jul 01 2020 - 03:42 AM

Hi All,

Since my return to GPL three months ago, I've spent the majority of my driving time in the F2 Lolas; they are an absolute blast.Thank you to everyone involved in the F2 Mod. :up:

I've also spent this time installing the latest mods, all of which look amazing. I would love to drive all of them but, like many people on here, with limited time to drive GPL I need help in choosing which car to drive within each mod. I've not yet driven a SINGLE lap in a Sports Car, GT or a Can Am.

So, I only have time to drive ONE CAR from each of the following: which should I choose?
  • 1955
  • 1965
  • 1966
  • 1967 org
  • 1967X
  • 1967H
  • 1967 F2
  • 1968
  • 1969X
  • CA66
  • CA71
  • GT
  • SC (Do I need this AND GT?)
  • Thunder
Many thanks in advance.

Edited by Tobodestroyer2020, Jul 04 2020 - 03:41 AM.


#2 KARTM

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Posted Jul 01 2020 - 04:11 AM

you forget the the best one the Formula 2  personally i drive the brabham bt23 , i use to drive the lotus49 in the original 67 mod but now i use the 67x and the Cosworth is so fragile that i quit and i drive the ferrari now , but for the 68 and 69 mod i use the 49,

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Posted Jul 01 2020 - 04:14 AM

My suggestions based on cars that are rewarding to drive but not too hard to get going well:
  • 1965 - Cooper T77
  • 1966 - Brabham BT11 2.5
  • 1967X - Do you mean 67 Historical V2? Anyway, it still has to be the Lotus 49
  • 1967H - I would only use 67 Historical V2
  • 1968 - Brabham BT26
  • 1969X - McLaren M7
  • CA66 - Lola T70 Weslake
  • CA71 - Got to be the McLaren M8F
  • GT - I would just do SC
  • SC (Do I need this AND GT?) - Alfa T33 is so much fun

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Posted Jul 01 2020 - 04:23 AM

and theres the 1955 mod and then for me its the maserati 250F

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Posted Jul 01 2020 - 04:43 AM

View PostKARTM, on Jul 01 2020 - 04:11 AM, said:

you forget the the best one the Formula 2  personally i drive the brabham bt23 , i use to drive the lotus49 in the original 67 mod but now i use the 67x and the Cosworth is so fragile that i quit and i drive the ferrari now , but for the 68 and 69 mod i use the 49,

Thanks, KartM. I've just added the F2s to the list although I have become really happy with the LolaFVA. I'll try the BT23 for my next F2 drive. The F2s are FANTASTIC and I recommend them to anyone getting back into GPL after a break.

EDIT: How could I forget? I've just added the 55s to the list.

Edited by Tobodestroyer2020, Jul 01 2020 - 04:44 AM.


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Posted Jul 01 2020 - 05:23 AM

Quite often it's a matter of which car best suits your driving style (unlike real world drivers, we can try them all).  Pick a track you're well familiar with and spend an evening trying each car in a mod, run enough laps to work up a decent setup in each and you will find one that is more "comfortable" than the rest.

In the default cars I always preferred the Ferrari;  hasn't the overall performance of the Lotus but is much easier to setup and drive, isn't as nimble as the Brabham but is faster.

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Posted Jul 01 2020 - 06:04 AM

You do not need GT and SC. SC is the updated version of GT so deactivate GT and keep SC ;)



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Posted Jul 01 2020 - 06:08 AM

In the F2 mod try the McLaren M4A - it's an insanely responsive car.

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Posted Jul 01 2020 - 06:42 AM

View PostJonnyA, on Jul 01 2020 - 06:08 AM, said:

In the F2 mod try the McLaren M4A - it's an insanely responsive car.

Agreed, best handling car in F2, not nescessarily the fastest though. ;)

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Posted Jul 01 2020 - 06:56 AM

  • 1955 - Mercedes W196 (non-streamline)
  • 1965 - Brabham BT11
  • 1966 - Ferrari 312
  • 1967X - Lotus 49
  • 1967 Original physics - Brabham BT24
  • 1969X - Brabham BT26A MW
  • CA66 - Chaparral 2E Chevy 327i
  • CA71 -  McLaren M8F
  • SC - Lola T70 Mk II (can only be selected at 36 fps)

Edited by Millennium, Jul 01 2020 - 06:57 AM.


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Posted Jul 01 2020 - 07:01 AM

For original 67s I would recommend either Cooper or Ferrari, but Erik knows that :D

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Posted Jul 01 2020 - 01:31 PM

View PostTobodestroyer2020, on Jul 01 2020 - 03:42 AM, said:

So, I only have time to drive ONE CAR from each of the following: which should I choose?

The Ferrari. If the mod you're playing doesn't have one, don't bother and fire up another mod.

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Posted Jul 01 2020 - 02:42 PM

Based mostly on personal favourites:

1955 - Maserati 250F
1965 - BRM P261
1966 - Cooper T81
1967 - Eagle T1G
1967 F2 - Matra MS7
1969X - Matra MS80
CA66 - Lola T70 Ford 305 ci.
CA71 - Lola T260
GT/SC - Ferrari P330

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Posted Jul 02 2020 - 12:24 PM

View PostRobert Fleurke, on Jul 01 2020 - 07:01 AM, said:

For original 67s I would recommend either Cooper or Ferrari, but Erik knows that :D
Haha, I think I could pick any of the cars and you would probably still win races in it.

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Posted Jul 02 2020 - 03:52 PM

View PostMillennium, on Jul 02 2020 - 12:24 PM, said:

Haha, I think I could pick any of the cars and you would probably still win races in it.

Yout too, Erik. ;)

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Posted Jul 03 2020 - 02:59 AM

View PostMillennium, on Jul 02 2020 - 12:24 PM, said:

Haha, I think I could pick any of the cars and you would probably still win races in it.

Thanks, but I thought this thread was about the best handling/easiest cars to drive.

That said, it's true I have won online races with the slowest cars of 65 mod and original 67s, but it depends also on the opposition, and track. I'd say my most rewarding wins are with the 67s BRM in Gentlemen's League, but to be fair the other fast drivers don't take fast cars there ;)

And as Stefan says, you have arguably more potential than myself. My advantage is simply experience, and my hunger to improve. I have never had so much fun racing as in the last year. Now I have basically reached all my goals I can enjoy the racing a lot more being in the mix more as well.

Sorry for being off-topic ;)

Edited by Robert Fleurke, Jul 03 2020 - 03:09 AM.


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Posted Jul 03 2020 - 09:54 AM

This is a decision you need to make yourself. We all have different tastes and likes. I only drive the unmodded Papy 67 Lotus 49 and that series of cars isn't even on your list.

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Posted Jul 03 2020 - 01:37 PM

Good point Pete :)

Everyone has their favorites, and their own driving style and hardware setiings as well. That said, theoretically you could say (if you have the data):

The cars with the most centered, and lowest center of gravity, combined with engine characteristics (smooth powerband/driveability) would be the easiest and most neutral handling car to drive. You could even take into account other factors like wheelbase and front/reartrack etc.

This complete data is mostly only know to the modders and the mod group I suppose. I'd be very interested in it ;)

Edited by Robert Fleurke, Jul 03 2020 - 01:38 PM.


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Posted Jul 03 2020 - 03:44 PM

That's for the tech guys Robert. I just jump in the car and drive it. If I say I like it. Then it's a good one for me. I said that the first time I drove the Lotus 49. It sure wasn't easy but I liked it the best of the 7 cars. After all these years it still isn't easy but I still like it.

I must like self torture.

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Posted Jul 04 2020 - 03:38 AM

Thanks for the advice so far and for your interesting comments. I took Robert's advice and moved to the McLaren M4A in the F2s and immediately got a PB at Enna. I then took it around Nurburgring (first lap since 2014) and did an 8:52 with the completely wrong set up and enough fuel to circumnavigate the globe. It's a glorious car with oodles of grip and fills the driver with confidence. I love it.

In the original 67's the Cooper was my favourite for all of the same reasons. Not as quick as the competition but very driveable. Since my return to GPL, I use H-shifter and clutch with right-foot braking as opposed to paddles and left foot with my old red Momo wheel. Both of the cars above are very forgiving with my new driving style/technique/hardware.

Perhaps my original post could have been clearer by asking which marque from each Mod is the most forgiving (I hesitate to use the word 'easiest') to drive. I'm looking for a car to give me confidence in each Mod before I jump into something crazy like a Lotus 49 with a 30/30 diff.

With limited time to drive GPL I need to know that I'm achieving something during each session and not just thrashing around aimlessly in a bath-tub, miles away from any sort of bench-mark time. My goal is to be able to venture into the world of online racing without being a hazard to everyone else on the grid in the not too distant future.

Please keep the ideas and thoughts coming.

Pete




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