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#16 jgf

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Posted Jun 14 2017 - 05:41 AM

The Eagle is definitely not the car in which to learn;  in terms of sheer speed it is the fastest of the bunch, but its long wheelbase makes setup and handling a bit tricky (you will love it at Monza and curse it at Monaco).

Arguably the best all-round car is the Ferrari;  hasn't the speed of the Eagle or Lotus but handles better, doesn't handle as well as the Brabham or Cooper but is faster.  The Cooper is usually recommended for learning due to its very forgiving handling.

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Posted Jun 14 2017 - 07:37 AM

View PostOld Simmer, on Jun 14 2017 - 04:42 AM, said:

ti2blegrr:

IMHO: The Ring Is NOT a place to learn to drive in GPL. WAY too many curves and a huge lap length. Go for something easier, MUCH easier.  The 65 mod is a great driving tool to learn how to drive GPL.

Have fun!
I believe he said it's his ultimate goal. ;)

But the 65 Mod is great to learn indeed.

Edited by Millennium, Jun 14 2017 - 07:38 AM.


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Posted Jun 14 2017 - 09:12 AM

Like I said earlier in the thread.
I started with realism and went straight to the jugular. No aids just  realism and baptism of fire. Bit of sado masachism

Down to the point of driving the notorious ring. First task was to complete a lap without mishap. Then it was trying to build up speed,confidence and the fastest possible user lap.

But then again as said everybody is different. Whatever way works for you is good and the way to go ! 😃

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Edited by twinpotter, Jun 14 2017 - 09:13 AM.


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Posted Jun 14 2017 - 10:19 AM

View PostOld Simmer, on Jun 14 2017 - 04:42 AM, said:

ti2blegrr:

IMHO: The Ring Is NOT a place to learn to drive in GPL. WAY too many curves and a huge lap length. Go for something easier, MUCH easier.  The 65 mod is a great driving tool to learn how to drive GPL.

Have fun!

Oh, I know! The Ring is my goal once I learn how to drive well, I have a healthy respect for that track, even in the sim world. In rFactor I took the GP3 car I have and cut one timed lap at a whooping 12.4 minutes, it scared the :crap: out of me, LOL!

Seriously, you guys have been great, I've got a ton of reading to do, I'm hoping I can put it all on my tablet.

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Posted Jun 14 2017 - 10:20 AM

The ring is not as long as you first think, it's really doable but takes time to learn.

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Posted Jun 14 2017 - 11:01 AM

The other challenge,other than the Ring,is the Targa Florio :woot:

I have sourced the basic setup guide to help you get used to the setups.(zip file)

All credit to the original author !

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Edited by twinpotter, Jun 14 2017 - 11:07 AM.


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Posted Jun 14 2017 - 11:12 AM

I agree concerning Monza / Silverstone for beginners. And the Brabham. And F2 cars. :)

Better learn to handle the cars BEFORE you go to the ring. :rolleyes:

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Posted Jun 14 2017 - 01:12 PM

I always thought the Eagle was sweet to drive. Very smooth power delivery and the long wheelbase makes it very stable. I seem to remember Steve Smith recommending it to beginners in his book.

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Posted Jun 14 2017 - 01:15 PM

I got the F2 and the '65 mod, I use Monza since it was the first non-NASCAR road course track I got for NR2K3S way, way back in the day, it's been my favorite to learn cars in all sims. Lime Rock is my second because of the elevation changes and is still an easy lay-out.(don't think I have that in GPL, yet) I always wanted to run Monza on-line, but most people I raced with thought it was to easy, little did they know. ;)

I have Targa Florio, I've never even attempted to run a lap there, yet. Going to one day, not today. :P

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Posted Jun 14 2017 - 01:20 PM

For me the BRM always was the most "difficult to handle" car.

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Posted Jun 14 2017 - 02:09 PM

View PostGartner, on Jun 14 2017 - 01:20 PM, said:

For me the BRM always was the most "difficult to handle" car.

It is the car with which I learned GPL :D, I used to drive it at Monza and Monaco most of the time.
You triggered an epiphany, so many memories ..

Even now, when I need to get to speed again with GPL, I drive at Monaco. If you master that track, you are good to go for any other track.

Edited by leon_90, Jun 14 2017 - 02:10 PM.


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Posted Jun 14 2017 - 03:37 PM

+1 Leon

Was my very first car I drove in the first install of gpl. The heavy weight H16.

I remember picking it,driving it and doing a google search on its historic character. Which turned out to be negative.

But I stuck with it and stuck it to the man. Again my sado masacism took over 😃

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Posted Jun 14 2017 - 03:53 PM

Millenium:

Indeed he did!  Read right past that, I did!

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Posted Jun 14 2017 - 10:13 PM

View Postleon_90, on Jun 14 2017 - 02:09 PM, said:

View PostGartner, on Jun 14 2017 - 01:20 PM, said:

For me the BRM always was the most "difficult to handle" car.

It is the car with which I learned GPL :D, I used to drive it at Monza and Monaco most of the time.
You triggered an epiphany, so many memories ..

Even now, when I need to get to speed again with GPL, I drive at Monaco. If you master that track, you are good to go for any other track.

Leon, your sig is from La Mans, right? My second favorite racing movie, guess which one is my first.

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Posted Jun 15 2017 - 01:32 AM

But Papyrus didn't do any serious research about the P 83 and P 115 H 16. The car wasn 't that hard to handle, and its potential was superior. When Stewart led at Spa, it is not because of his talent, but because the car had potential on fast tracks. In GPL, go to Spa67, take two drivers with the same speed, put one on the Eagle / Lotus/ Honda/ Ferrari, and the other on the BRM, and he will be beaten fair and square.

The car suffered more of engine oil pressure as retirement causes, but with more reliabilty, they wld have finished in the championship points more often.

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