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[Ramoats]

Ah thanks Ginetto... I'll chk them out.. ( Had em right in my Gammaworx folder .... if they'd have been a snake... they'd have bit me...)

Edited by Ramoats, May 11 2016 - 02:51 PM.

[Ramoats]

ginetto, on May 11 2016 - 12:50 PM, said:

Gammaworx had a bunch of different options for one of his nurburgrings.
They should be in subfolders once you install his track (I don't remember if was an update or an actual track with its own installer).
Try 'em out and see if you find anything that suits your needs.

Ok ... Gammaworx beautiful and realistic sky options are ... Bright ... Cloudy ... Hazy ... Overcast ....
After backing up my fully updated Kella Ring Betas for each install... I installed  the appropriate "Sky and horizon Only" files and in a few cases the associated concrete mip for each year/installation I have .... they look incredible and provide the desired effect for sure... For me Gammaworx sunny sky wasn't quite bright enough so I did a version with Dunky's Nurb sky as well

The only drawbacks so far are Gammaworks horizons are a bit higher than Kellas in some spots but really enrich the mountain atmosphere ... the slight change in asphalt color that occurs under different lighting conditions isn't present (but Kellas colors are fortunately middle of the road ..yuk, yuk)  and the sky pops through the foliage again in that thin strip at the top of the grass bank heading toward the Flugplatz.. but I can live with it ... If anyone would like to see some screenies I'll post some ... I will post some shortly

Edited by Ramoats, May 12 2016 - 08:01 AM.

[ginetto]

Yes please, some screenies are always good for others to choose!  

[ROOKIE4EVER]

Ramoats, on May 11 2016 - 06:37 AM, said:

Yes Rookie. . Your site was a god send as I fight my way back into the GPL groove and play 10 years of catch up ... Thanks for your work in any case...

Big thank you Ramoats.

Ramoats, on May 11 2016 - 06:37 AM, said:

Can't imagine why your site isnt on the GPL essential links site... Or is it ? I found it in a google search.

Probably because it's in french. Not easy. The french community is as small as active in the big GPL world.

[Ramoats]

ROOKIE4EVER, on May 12 2016 - 11:40 AM, said:

Ramoats, on May 11 2016 - 06:37 AM, said:

Yes Rookie. . Your site was a god send as I fight my way back into the GPL groove and play 10 years of catch up ... Thanks for your work in any case...

Big thank you Ramoats.

Ramoats, on May 11 2016 - 06:37 AM, said:

Can't imagine why your site isnt on the GPL essential links site... Or is it ? I found it in a google search.

Probably because it's in french. Not easy. The french community is as small as active in the big GPL world.

Google translated it toot sweet. .. Thanks again! !

[Ramoats]

Ramoats, on May 11 2016 - 09:31 AM, said:

Now my quest begins for historic weather/skies that fit well with the Kella Beta update ... My look ups reveal the following regarding weather conditions on race day ...

1965 .. overcast and wet
1966 ...overcast and damp
1967... sunny and dry
1968... hazy and damp/wet
1969 ...sunny and dry
1967 1000 km nürburgring ...dry and hot

I looked at some of Al Healys ground breaking skies but find them too dramatic for actual historic race conditions.

So far I have tried gliebzeits_65_Nurb_Cloudy_Sky for the 1965 event ... there are minor color saturation and other issues when used with the Kella update but overall really doesn't look bad at all and provides that gloomy feeling I am seeking...

Any suggestions here for each event would be greatly appreciated..

  

Here is where my search has led me so far with interesting results ... I like using the Gammaworx selection as the horizon remains consistent ( I did not use any files other than sky and horizon files so asphalt and ground color is the same in every version ... but be aware he uses some fog inserts in his track ini files that need copied and pasted into the track ini your updating. I added minimal fog to his 65 cloudy sky just to see the effect ...I had originally pulled the sky from wetnurb to try not realizing until later it was Gliebzeits.... Each screen cap is titled with whatever update I used ....

Attached Files

•  1965 Cloudy Gammaworx with fog.jpg   319.74K   158 downloads
•  1965 Cloudy Gammaworx.jpg   355.65K   194 downloads
•  1965 Cloudy Gliebzeit.jpg   363.44K   177 downloads
•  1965 Wetnurg sky.jpg   369.13K   157 downloads
•  1966 Overcast Gammaworx.jpg   341.56K   152 downloads
•  1967 GT Original Kella Sky.jpg   360.23K   167 downloads
•  1967 Sunny Dunky.jpg   362.4K   159 downloads
•  1969 Sunny Gammaworx.jpg   332.16K   131 downloads

Edited by Ramoats, May 13 2016 - 12:48 PM.

[Ramoats]

Additionally I took Ducwolfs advice and 3D0 file and laid Seegerts Spa Sky and Horizon into Kellaas Nurburgring adding the 3D0 Ducwolf supplied in post 347 of this thread ... It is quite beautiful I must say and fits really well...

Attached Files

•  Seegerts Spa Sky and Ducwolf 3do 1.jpg   376.95K   128 downloads
•  Seegerts Spa Sky and Ducwolf 3do 2.jpg   434.47K   168 downloads
•  Seegerts Spa Sky and Ducwolf 3do 3.jpg   467.6K   129 downloads

[gliebzeit]

This modded set of Seegert's horizon files removes that "castle" at the end of the S/F straight.  There was none there in R/L.  

Also, there is a cloudy version of Seegert's horizon files that I made with his permission many years back.  

Attached Files

•  horiz5.jpg   171.56K   110 downloads
•  horiz5.jpg   169.13K   143 downloads
•  nurb1.jpg   61.02K   153 downloads
•  Seegert_nurburg_horiz_FIX.rar   4.85MB   66 downloads
•  nurb2.jpg   64.08K   143 downloads

Edited by gliebzeit, May 14 2016 - 02:07 PM.

[Ramoats]

GREAT.. Thanks for this. ...

(incidentally. .is it permissible to use files the way I am? When should permission be sought)

Edited by Ramoats, May 15 2016 - 09:16 AM.

[ginetto]

You ask permission when you want to distribute someone else's creation.
Until you use for yourself you can do what you want with everything you like.

[John Woods]

ginetto, on May 14 2016 - 02:37 PM, said:

You ask permission when you want to distribute someone else's creation.
Until you use for yourself you can do what you want with everything you like.

Aren't there some caveats when only attribution of a creator's work would be appropriate?
Obviously when their own readme allows it.
Or what about not knowing who exactly the creator is?

What about various compilations with many diverse and unrelated creators?

Of course getting permission is always best.

Edited by John Woods, May 15 2016 - 02:07 PM.

[M Needforspeed]

Today someone just posted this Nurby pepite ou You Tube . Another doc that provides infos on how the place was in 1967.
Thanks to the uploader for this new Summer present

https://www.youtube....h?v=ddmVe9CTz9E


many cockpit views that wld permit to improve further track surroundings. The Kallenhardt section before the bridge going to Ex Muehle reveals the driver cld see hills and low mountains positionned quite far in the background

Attached Files

•  Nurby .JPG   23.36K   55 downloads
•  Nurby 2 .JPG   22.49K   59 downloads

Edited by M Needforspeed, Jun 21 2017 - 04:53 PM.

[webfoot]

gliebzeit, on May 14 2016 - 01:57 PM, said:

This modded set of Seegert's horizon files removes that "castle" at the end of the S/F straight.  There was none there in R/L.  

Also, there is a cloudy version of Seegert's horizon files that I made with his permission many years back.  

In case this helps anybody else.  This horizon/sky did not work for me in my nurburg build.  The Solution I think was that it needs a "ground.mip".  I borrowed the one from the 1955 Mod complete track .

http://srmz.net/inde...showtopic=11824

Edited by webfoot, Mar 06 2018 - 10:57 AM.

[gliebzeit]

Fixed.  Thanks webfoot.  

http://srmz.net/inde...showtopic=11824