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#1 Bo Bruce

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Posted May 06 2018 - 01:41 PM

i've not changed anything - i've even searched here for (stutter) and verified my video card settings are same.
OS=win10
Vid card nVidea GTX650 8mg RAm

this past week, while online i noticed it.. like when someone chats, or joins the server. that brief pause.
it was happening 5 or 6 times a lap (at Zeltweg71) sometimes less, sometimes different locations.

today, i tried joining a different server / diff track - and had same issue.
then i just loaded GPL Offline - and i get the same stuttering!
so its my system, or video card... or??

it doesn't seem to affect FPS

i'm at a loss to even guess what to try next -
any one have an idea?
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i DO!!
if you've ever watched the British comedy "the I.T. Crowd"  you'll know the answer too :)

give up?
they're answer to every problem was.... "have you tried turning off and back on again?"

#2 Manfred Cubenoggin

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Posted May 07 2018 - 04:25 AM

I suspect it was just the accursed join-leave lag which I've always experienced, Bo.  Damnable thing.  :(

From what I gather, it's just something we have to live with.

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Posted May 07 2018 - 04:25 AM

Has Windows 10 sneaked a video driver update onto your PC without you noticing? I remember a couple of months back, Windows 10 asked me to restart because of an update. It didn't say what was being changed (as usual), I thought perhaps it was just the Windows Defender being updated. But when I checked later, I found I had a newer driver!

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Posted May 07 2018 - 06:55 AM

What Keith said.  Try to roll-back your video driver.


One of the main reasons that I looked for a Win 7 downgrade on my last laptop purchase.

Edited by gliebzeit, May 07 2018 - 06:56 AM.


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Posted May 07 2018 - 07:21 AM

thanks.. but 'rolling back' (specifically video driver) is beyond my 'expertise' :P
appreciate the suggestion, but a test again this morning showed all good, so "MAYBE" i'm ok (?)  :)

the deepest concern is 'someday' GPL just won't run on win10 or 11 .... i'll have to invest in a pc w/WINxp ;)

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Posted May 07 2018 - 08:18 AM

Just to clarify, Bo fixed this himself by rebooting his computer.

Bo, this certainly did sound like a program running int he background. If it happens again, exit GPL and open the Task Manager (left click on the bottom toolbar) to see if something is running like an updater or virus check..

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Posted May 07 2018 - 08:34 AM

thanks Bob!  will do ~

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Posted May 07 2018 - 08:35 AM

Just as a thought, might the lag occur depending on which rasteriser set used?  I've used Open GL V2 for quite some time but does Direct 3D V2 avoid the join-leave stutter?

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Posted May 07 2018 - 11:43 AM

Maybe this could have been re-enabled during a update?
https://www.kotaku.c...-in-windows-10/

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Posted May 07 2018 - 06:25 PM

View Postgliebzeit, on May 07 2018 - 06:55 AM, said:

What Keith said.  Try to roll-back your video driver.


One of the main reasons that I looked for a Win 7 downgrade on my last laptop purchase.
don't you mean upgraded from win 10

goin from win 7 to win 10 is a downgrade

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Posted May 08 2018 - 02:36 AM

View PostSaiph, on May 07 2018 - 04:25 AM, said:

Has Windows 10 sneaked a video driver update onto your PC without you noticing? I remember a couple of months back, Windows 10 asked me to restart because of an update. It didn't say what was being changed (as usual), I thought perhaps it was just the Windows Defender being updated. But when I checked later, I found I had a newer driver!

IIRC you can turn off that Windows 10 updates any drivers.
My Win 10 does not. ;)

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Posted May 08 2018 - 07:23 AM

View PostBrocky05, on May 07 2018 - 06:25 PM, said:

View Postgliebzeit, on May 07 2018 - 06:55 AM, said:

What Keith said.  Try to roll-back your video driver.


One of the main reasons that I looked for a Win 7 downgrade on my last laptop purchase.
don't you mean upgraded from win 10

goin from win 7 to win 10 is a downgrade

Nope.  The laptop was sold as having Win 10.  There were discs provided to downgrade to Win 7 Pro.  :)

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Posted May 08 2018 - 07:30 AM

View PostStefan Roess, on May 08 2018 - 02:36 AM, said:

View PostSaiph, on May 07 2018 - 04:25 AM, said:

Has Windows 10 sneaked a video driver update onto your PC without you noticing? I remember a couple of months back, Windows 10 asked me to restart because of an update. It didn't say what was being changed (as usual), I thought perhaps it was just the Windows Defender being updated. But when I checked later, I found I had a newer driver!

IIRC you can turn off that Windows 10 updates any drivers.
My Win 10 does not. ;)

I can't find any official way to adjust automatic updates at all, except for stating when my "quiet times" are on the PC, when Windows 10 will ask me to reboot. I've seen some websites giving guides about editing various Windows 10 settings files, and editing the registry to turn off or otherwise adjust updates, but even though I'm a bit of a techie, I'm not going to risk hacking around like that.

Effectively I've just learned to accept that Microsoft now has more control over my PC than I do. :angry:

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Posted May 08 2018 - 09:34 AM

I know for sure that my Windows 10 does not install for example grphics drivers updates, as I still have to install them via the Nvidia Program.
I think I have deactivated the driver updates with this tool:
O&O ShutUp10 - Antispy-Tool for Windows 10

http://srmz.net/inde...=15#entry123642

Edit: I have found it. :)
Stop automatic driver updates on Windows 10
http://www.itprotoda...ates-windows-10

Edited by Stefan Roess, May 09 2018 - 05:36 AM.





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