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#1 svenvangent

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Posted Sep 30 2011 - 01:22 PM

Unbelievable the time that you lose racing/shift with the gamepad or racing with a wheel :shock:
Just done a comparison with Georg B at Sachsenring 1967 and his speedshift/gearshift .
See picture .
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Posted Sep 30 2011 - 01:35 PM

Normal upshift time spent in neutral is about 0.22 seconds even with a wheel using paddle shifters, anything faster suggests an H-shifter and an accompanying change in physics. It seems your gamepad shifting times are normal.

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Posted Sep 30 2011 - 01:35 PM

you realize that his are mostly speedshifts? says so at the top of the screen: 12 out of 15 upshifts were speedshifts, whereas you didn't a single time.
so he's like gear, full throttle (gear).
you are full throttle, neutral, gear, full throttle

spot the difference ;)

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Posted Sep 30 2011 - 01:41 PM

Brr thanks for the reply  :hat-tip:

Sky , yes i saw that he was doing speedshift but if i try too do that mostly it is :fireworks2:  boem patat :fireworks4:  with my engine :rolleyes:
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Edited by svenvangent, Sep 30 2011 - 01:42 PM.


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Posted Sep 30 2011 - 02:09 PM

I don't think its because he's speedshifting... I tried both and they both give me 0.222 secs, but without speedshifting I'm around 5-10 kmh slower. So I guess time spend in neutral doesn't matter much, its the same in both occasions. He is probably using heel/toe or some other pro technique to shift so fast...

I allways run with damage off when lapping around, both because I'm faster when speedshifting and to minimize frustration... which is very important with tracks like Sachsenring... btw, I cant get the hang of that track... the surface feels like even mix of molasses and ice, with some train rails spread randomly on top...

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Posted Sep 30 2011 - 02:12 PM

View Postsvenvangent, on Sep 30 2011 - 01:41 PM, said:

Brr thanks for the reply  :hat-tip:

Sky , yes i saw that he was doing speedshift but if i try too do that mostly it is :fireworks2:  boem patat :fireworks4:  with my engine :rolleyes:
greets

Does that come with the smell of french fries as well?  :rofl:

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Posted Sep 30 2011 - 02:59 PM

Time lost is not quite as dramatic as it seems. The car doesn't come to a stop when you shift.

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Posted Sep 30 2011 - 03:12 PM

I have to use autoshift which I'm told adds 0.20 seconds per shift.  Averages about 6 to 8 seconds per lap slower for me than the fast guys in the leagues I'm in.

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Posted Sep 30 2011 - 03:15 PM

View Postsvenvangent, on Sep 30 2011 - 01:41 PM, said:

Brr thanks for the reply  :hat-tip:

Sky , yes i saw that he was doing speedshift but if i try too do that mostly it is :fireworks2:  boem patat :fireworks4:  with my engine :rolleyes:
greets


why not use Damage mode = none,

you cant explode it  :rolleyes:

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Posted Sep 30 2011 - 03:21 PM

View PostMECH, on Sep 30 2011 - 02:12 PM, said:

View Postsvenvangent, on Sep 30 2011 - 01:41 PM, said:

Brr thanks for the reply  :hat-tip:

Sky , yes i saw that he was doing speedshift but if i try too do that mostly it is :fireworks2:  boem patat :fireworks4:  with my engine :rolleyes:
greets

Does that come with the smell of french fries as well?  :rofl:

smells like teen spirit :P

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Posted Sep 30 2011 - 03:25 PM

View Posts2173, on Sep 30 2011 - 02:09 PM, said:

I don't think its because he's speedshifting... I tried both and they both give me 0.222 secs, but without speedshifting I'm around 5-10 kmh slower. So I guess time spend in neutral doesn't matter much, its the same in both occasions. He is probably using heel/toe or some other pro technique to shift so fast...

I allways run with damage off when lapping around, both because I'm faster when speedshifting and to minimize frustration... which is very important with tracks like Sachsenring... btw, I cant get the hang of that track... the surface feels like even mix of molasses and ice, with some train rails spread randomly on top...
Damage alway's on realistic for me and no automatic shift but manu shift
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Posted Sep 30 2011 - 05:07 PM

I've never used it but i think he must be using gplshift or whatever it's called. All shifts in gpl are 0.222, it's hard coded and the only way to get round this is to alter the physics - gplshift does something like this and basically can allow you to shift as fast as is possible.

I'm not sure if what i've said is correct but i think it probably is. Someone else please correct me though.

So yer it's almost like a bit of a cheat way at gaining time, that can be justifiably offset if you are using the realism of heeltoe - but if you are actually speedshifting too and also not even using manual clutch and lfb then i dunno it seems a bit unfair really. Then again, these rules only really apply to oneself personally - it's stupid to apply them to others - i just like to try and drive in a realistic manner myself :) And also, i could be talking complete :crap:.

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Posted Oct 01 2011 - 09:17 AM

Sven, that's what I was getting at before. As you know I use a gamepad also, and I can't get near your times.
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Posted Oct 01 2011 - 09:59 AM

View PostAndy Clegg, on Oct 01 2011 - 09:17 AM, said:

Sven, that's what I was getting at before. As you know I use a gamepad also, and I can't get near your times.
Andy
Hallo Andy ,
Those faster times will come it is a matter of time practice practice and even more grrrrrrr practice .
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for example , at Adeleide i couldent go for a long time in to the green light and i thought  ... man ... this track don't like me much until one day i took my baby braby out for a ride and...... bingoooooo green (allee just green) :P
In the beginning Kyalami was also a track full of frustrazione .
Ach , and knowing the track the line and a good feeling with the car helps also .
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Edited by svenvangent, Oct 01 2011 - 10:15 AM.


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Posted Oct 02 2011 - 01:13 AM

Thanks Sven for the encouragement, I know I've to keep practising. I drive the cars like I would imagine they'd be driven round a track.




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