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#1 db312

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Posted Aug 30 2016 - 01:46 PM

Hello everybody !!! :)

Another "montage" for a famous historical circuit at least so known as Spa !!! ... :mellow:... Ok... perhaps not known so well, but it's never too late... :yeah:

I hope some of you will discover (or rediscover...) this challenging funny track around your garden... :D :D :D

Generally I try to do moderate stuff but this time it's a little bit HEAVIER... (after installation the Crystal's folder is about 70mo...) :sleepy: ...

But normally, nobody would have bad surprise because with my old computer I have absolutely no problem !
(Dell - Intel 1.86GHz - 1giga - 256MB ATI Radeon X1300Pro... and it works...)

Just tell me if you encounter some disagreements and I will reduce the file's size  :)

I need to add that the team which created this track in 2000 has done an incredible job !!!
The original Dat is about 9Mo... And in spite of the size of the update, it works perfectly !!! Just amazing...
A great thank to them, and to JackSeller and Thomas Laechele for quite everything else ! :shrug:...

To get an idea...
Attached File  crystal_palace.jpg   152.71K   267 downloads

And the update...
Attached File  crystal_Dbupdt.zip   20.31MB   197 downloads

In addition, Gliebzeit has made right after some wonderful adjustments ! It's a must have !
Thank you so much to you Gliebzeit !!! :smug2: :smug2: :smug2: :smug2:
Attached File  Crystal_Palace_lower_horiz.rar   955.95K   51 downloads
Attached File  Crystal_Palace_slight_horizon_tweaks.rar   1.09MB   50 downloads
(It's the same files than in post#5 and #11)
In case or some of you find it to low, try with this 3do...Attached File  Crystal_medium_horiz.zip   1.39K   56 downloads

Take care all of you and have fun :bye:

Edited by db312, Sep 04 2016 - 07:04 AM.


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Posted Aug 31 2016 - 05:08 AM

Nice one Denis, bravo! :)

I've worked a little on the FB values to have a little less popups; see if you like it better. :wave:

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Posted Aug 31 2016 - 08:22 AM

View Postginetto, on Aug 31 2016 - 05:08 AM, said:

Nice one Denis, bravo! :)

I've worked a little on the FB values to have a little less popups; see if you like it better. :wave:


It's just great Ginetto !!! :blush:
Thank you so much, it's really really SOOOOO :cool4:  !!!!!! :yahoo:
It seems to me that Crystal is one of the best smallest track, and I hope sincerely it will be a little bit more appreciated :shrug:

Thank you again for all !!! :cheers:

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Posted Aug 31 2016 - 09:54 AM

Thank you Denis! And ginetto too! One of my favorite tracks.

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Posted Aug 31 2016 - 02:52 PM

Denis, this is an absolute beauty!!  Thank you very much for your efforts.  :)

The only very small change that I think helps is to 'lower' the horizon.  This horiz.3do file will do that.  See what you think.

I've also adjusted the forward view distance in the crystal.3do file to eliminate the last few pop-ups.  Plus, rear view distance increases will eliminate all pop-downs in your mirrors.  Again, please test this to see what you think as to improvements /vs FPS.

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Posted Aug 31 2016 - 03:43 PM

View Postgliebzeit, on Aug 31 2016 - 02:52 PM, said:

Denis, this is an absolute beauty!!  Thank you very much for your efforts.  :)

The only very small change that I think helps is to 'lower' the horizon.  This horiz.3do file will do that.  See what you think.

I've also adjusted the forward view distance in the crystal.3do file to eliminate the last few pop-ups.  Plus, rear view distance increases will eliminate all pop-downs in your mirrors.  Again, please test this to see what you think as to improvements /vs FPS.


Dear Greg,

What can I say except :thanks: :thanks: :thanks: :thanks: ... I'm really touched by your kindness !!!

I'm also perfectly right with you about the horizon, I leave it like that because I'm trying to learn the creation of skies and built a realistic one for this track, which is... IN the town of London... And not in a country like it is actually...

In the meantime, I will :drive1:  right now to try your gift...   And give you some feedbacks... :stretcher: ......... :hysterical:

Once again, thank you SO MUCH to take time and improve what I've done... :)

Like I said to Ginetto, It's SOOOOO   :cool4:  !!!!! :friends:

Denis

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Posted Aug 31 2016 - 04:22 PM

Very nice update, and no problem running it on my old computer. :smug2:  Every Easter Monday when young, I would look forward to the big F2 meeting at the Palace.  It almost seemed you could touch the cars as they passed, at this small track, and they made wonderful loud noises.  These features brought racing to an end in 1971.  It was great while it lasted!

A huge Crystal Palace was built of glass on a hill in the 1850's, for a grand London exhibition..  There was a huge fire which destroyed it all in the 1930's.  The race track was built in the park, next the the burnt out site.  This part of London is called Crystal Palace, and the beautiful horizon showing the English countryside, had become part of the city in the 1960's.  Every other thing is very good.  Thank you for bringing back some happy memories.

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Posted Aug 31 2016 - 11:20 PM

Great stuff. It's a long time ago I tried my luck at Crystal Palace. I'll drive a few laps with this update for sure. Excellent add-on. Chapeau. :hat-tip:

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Posted Sep 01 2016 - 01:10 AM

Thanks guys, recently drove this track with a couple of mods, but I guess I need to give it another visit! :)

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Posted Sep 01 2016 - 01:39 AM

Many thanks for the updates Denis, Gin and Greg :up:


I keep meaning to go and have a look at the place but never seem to get round to it. I'll take some pictures of the horizons if I do.

Meanwhile:

http://www.speedhunt...crystal-palace/

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Posted Sep 01 2016 - 07:22 AM

Here are some slightly altered horizon files for Crystal Palace.  This makes the only spot on the circuit (the dip coming out of Park Curve) where you see the external horizon more park-like.

To be used with the 'lowered' horiz.3do file posted above.  I've not tested these with the original horiz.3do file.

- Greg

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Posted Sep 01 2016 - 08:39 AM

View Postgliebzeit, on Sep 01 2016 - 07:22 AM, said:

Here are some slightly altered horizon files for Crystal Palace.  This makes the only spot on the circuit (the dip coming out of Park Curve) where you see the external horizon more park-like.

To be used with the 'lowered' horiz.3do file posted above.  I've not tested these with the original horiz.3do file.

- Greg

It's just great Gliebzeit !!! Many many thanks !!! :cheers:

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Posted Sep 01 2016 - 09:04 AM

View Postmaddog, on Aug 31 2016 - 04:22 PM, said:

Very nice update, and no problem running it on my old computer. :smug2:  Every Easter Monday when young, I would look forward to the big F2 meeting at the Palace.  It almost seemed you could touch the cars as they passed, at this small track, and they made wonderful loud noises.  These features brought racing to an end in 1971.  It was great while it lasted!

A huge Crystal Palace was built of glass on a hill in the 1850's, for a grand London exhibition..  There was a huge fire which destroyed it all in the 1930's.  The race track was built in the park, next the the burnt out site.  This part of London is called Crystal Palace, and the beautiful horizon showing the English countryside, had become part of the city in the 1960's.  Every other thing is very good.  Thank you for bringing back some happy memories.


I never went to Crystal Palace, I think they still have Sprints there now. Nice track.

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Posted Sep 01 2016 - 10:53 AM

I visited the track 5 years ago.  My first time since 1972!  It's been blended into the park, with much of the front straight under several feet, and a metre or 3 of soil.  Sadly, sprint racing has become possible only on foot.  It's well documented in the good article sprouting from post #10. :thumbup:

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Posted Sep 01 2016 - 04:44 PM

very nice add-on, i like it a lot :) thanks :up: :woohoo2: :partytime:

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Posted Sep 01 2016 - 05:25 PM

Thank you to all of you guys !!! :)

I hope it helps everybody to trust that GPL is still a great simulation, with a lot of things to do !

I'm just... I don't find the words... grrrr... when I see for exemple that Spa67 has been loaded 4000 times,
I find it wonderful but in the same time I don't understand why there is not two zero more...

Not because I would like to see what I've done more loaded, non non non...

But just because it's seems to me that GPL is still a must ! :shrug: ...

Perhaps I'm too "purist", I don't know, but I remain a little bit surprised...

Fortunately you're there and clearly passionated !!!  ;)       Olé !!! :whip:

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Posted Sep 02 2016 - 05:24 AM

Thx for this nice update (and all other updates you have done recently! I have downloaded them all, but I haven`t got around yet to install them)!
And also thx to Ginetto and Greg for further improvments!

For my personal taste the asphalt is a bit to shiny grey, but maybe I am just used to the darker GPLEA upate I am using ( http://srmz.net/inde...7173#entry65855 ).

That aside it looks very good. :up:
Keep the updates coming. :)

Regarding the download numbers of Spa67...
Well, we have to face it, the glory days of GPL are over.
A shame the group of people who enjoys them is getting smaler and smaler. Because the older this game has become the tracks and mods have got better and better.
The track and mod creators have gathered a lot of knowledge and can do things you wouldn`t have dreamed of 5 years ago.

@Fat Rich: Thx for the nice link to the Crystal Palace history and how it looks today.
Btw on the homepage is also a good report of that kind on the Nürburgring Südschleife. ;)

Edited by Stefan Roess, Sep 18 2016 - 04:18 AM.


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Posted Sep 02 2016 - 06:07 AM

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................
A shame the group of people who enjoys them is getting smaler and smaler.
..........

Sadly not the case for me. :hippo1:

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Posted Sep 02 2016 - 07:47 AM

View PostStefan Roess, on Sep 02 2016 - 05:24 AM, said:

Thx for this nice update (and all other updates you have done recently!
I have downloaded them all, but I haven`t got around yet to install them)!
And also thx to Ginetto and Greg for further improvments!
For my personal taste the asphalt is a bit to shiny grey, but maybe I am just used to my dark GPLEA upate ( http://srmz.net/inde...7173#entry65855 ).

That aside it looks very good. :up:
Keep the updates coming. :)

Regarding the download numbers of Spa67...
Well, we have to face it, the glory days of GPL are over.
A shame the group of people who enjoys them is getting smaler and smaler.
Because the older this game has become the tracks and mods have got better and better.
The track and mod creators have gathered a lot of knowledge and can do things you wouldn`t have dreamed of 5 years ago.

@Fat Rich: Thx for the nice link to the Crystal Palace history and how it looks today.
Btw on the homepage is also a good report of that kind on the Nürburgring Südschleife. ;)

Thank you for your explanations Stefan... I'm sad to realize the actual situation... And as usual happy to read Fat Rich !!! ;)
I'm sure that all what everybody has done during all these years will be discovered... But later !
I don't know how and when, but I trust as long as the current creators of the others sims are hands bound by the economic war...
GPL will stay for a long time the more realistic driving simulation ever made !!! and in addition with an incredible stability !!!
I don't know for you guys, but personally during 15 years, adding years after years bigger and bigger updates...
GPL has crashed perhaps 5 times...
and it was 5 times my fault...

Regarding the shiny grey asphalt, I used these two lovely video... And It is perhaps effectively too clear... :shrug:
https://youtu.be/bWp-0TuY4Sk
https://youtu.be/IKbi_o086wc

I'm very impatient to discover what will happen !

Best wishes to all of you :wave:

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Posted Sep 02 2016 - 08:13 AM

View Postdb312, on Sep 02 2016 - 07:47 AM, said:

I'm very impatient to discover what will happen !

The 55 F1 mod will happen and more. :D :dont_mention:

Thx for the YouTube vids. I know them, but I haven`t watched them for a very long time.
You are right, in the first video the asphalt looks in deed much lighter.... I will give it a try again.

The last time I have watched them was when we were beta testing the Cortina mod MANY years ago.... :whistling:




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