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#21 mcmirande

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Posted Feb 24 2013 - 10:27 PM

Good micke! I usually do the same. Compare myself with the "next buddy" on the rank.
It's frustrating trying to compete directly against phil woodward, lol.

In this time did you try to join some online league? That's very good for a quick improvement in the driving. At least it was for me.

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Posted Feb 24 2013 - 10:33 PM

Hehe. Paul villiers already invited you. Ukgpl is an excellent league to race!

I race in mybroga, which is as good too.

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Posted Feb 25 2013 - 03:38 AM

Thanks for explaining that to me. Could you tell me one more thing. I'm only driving the GPL, didn't install any mods... Do I have to make a lap time in every track to get a place in the rankings. Because when I go to my 'country rankings' I can't see myself anywhere...?

I didn't join any online league. I am still figuring out how does gpl ranking work with all the handicaps and stuff. But I am very interested in playing online! :)

One more question, do I have to upload a replay of my times?

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Posted Feb 25 2013 - 09:27 AM

View PostJarhead, on Feb 25 2013 - 03:38 AM, said:

....... Do I have to make a lap time in every track to get a place in the rankings. Because when I go to my 'country rankings' I can't see myself anywhere...?

The first, basic rank that you should aim to get is the "GPLRank", and to achieve that you need to do at least one lap at all of the eleven standard GPL circuits. You can mix the cars up any way you want, so you may do some laps with the Lotus, some with the Brabham and so on. But you must have a time at each of the eleven tracks. After doing that, when you upload your player.ini file, you will see the GPLRank site work out your GPLRank score, and then that will be used to include you in the 'country rankings' list.

(If you complete laps at all of the eleven tracks, with all seven cars, that is known as the "monster of GPLRank".)

View PostJarhead, on Feb 25 2013 - 03:38 AM, said:

I didn't join any online league. I am still figuring out how does gpl ranking work with all the handicaps and stuff. But I am very interested in playing online! :)

I'm not an expert at league racing, but usually each league has its own rules about working out time handicaps and points to allow all levels of drivers to enjoy themselves. Some leagues don't use handicapping though, so you'll just have to practice and get faster if you want to finish higher up.

View PostJarhead, on Feb 25 2013 - 03:38 AM, said:

One more question, do I have to upload a replay of my times?

To get your times on GPLRank, you only have to upload your player.ini file. The only time that the GPLRank site will ask you to upload an actual replay, is if you break a world record time at a track. An admin will then check your replay to make sure you haven't "cheated" by taking short cuts at the corners, or by riding on armco barriers. If your replay passes, you will be the new world record holder.

Edited by Saiph, Feb 25 2013 - 09:29 AM.


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Posted Feb 26 2013 - 04:09 AM

Ok, thank you Saiph, you really cleared the air for me here. I understand everything now. :)

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Posted Feb 26 2013 - 09:19 AM

Hi Jarhead,

Quite a "beginner" at GPLRank as well but very soon I found out how fun it is to interact with the material there.

As already said you do not need to upload any replay. Go to the "Submit My Times" and if you only run the original 67 mod you browse to the subfolder with the name corresponding to the name you have as a driver and upload the player.ini file. If you later decide to install a couple of MODs you have to add one driver (with altered name) for each MOD and subfolders to those will be available as well. In my case I use the 69X and 67GT MODs. Important to know is that when you upload times you have to do it to the driver in the MOD you recently did a new record. All subfolders will contain all player.ini -files so it's just 67 season that relates to the player.ini and the other mods have altered names for the correct ini-file. Those ini-files are named as some variant of player and the MOD name. I'm not at the game computer right now so I don't remember exactly, I guess you know when you see it.If you for example upload player.ini from your 69X driver folder GPLRank will read the times from 67 and perhaps put in wrong time to the season you intended. But you can correct this by uploading the right file and upload again.

Another great department is the "107%". See http://en.wikipedia....ing#107.25_rule for some explanation of the concept. From there you can compare (within all MODs you've done laps on all tracks) your laptimes with the benchmark laptimes. You will see in percent how far from the benchmark your times are and as soon as you beat the benchmark time you will get a green bar pointing to the left. To "go green" within a MOD is when all the bars are green and pointing to the left. From this screen you can compare what tracks you have to put extra laps on (your "worst" track has a red bar) and fight to lower them.

The very same 107% is perfect when you, as I mentioned, pic a buddy with a slighltly better rank than you and compare his/hers times on all tracks with yours. To do that you first copy the drivers name from the total rank (Show my ranks), then click "Find" to the right of "no driver selected", paste the name in the following screen and "Search". Then you click on the name and next on "Show data". You will see a 107% screen where your times are compared to the other players. This way I train on the tracks until I've beaten all the buddys times, then I find another driver to "challenge". Very fun and effective to both alter tracks and get better.
My small tip to get a lot of fun.

And I will go back here and check out the leagues other posters here have suggested - later on. But as Jarhead I try to pass a lot of browsing and reading and try to ask direct quests with a hope of some helpful answers:

I prefer not to involve a lot of tracks outside the seasons I drive as well as I prefer to drive the same car within each season (Lotus in 67, Matra in 69X and Mirage in GT). Yet anyhow. I've checked out a couple of leagues and find that it differs a lot regarding cars and tracks. Anyone that know about leagues that limit the races to tracks within the seasons and makes it possible to drive your prefered car? If there is one, and one that welcomes rookies like me with just one green track (but close to benchmark on the others) I will try it for sure. Driving live with others would be great fun! Otherwise I stay with the AI's until I'm more compatable :).

But right now I have abstinence :( . First my G25 Shifter broke down and I have to use paddle-shifting, then a No signal message and no screen at all. Have to solve this soon. I really miss my daily relaxation at the wheel even if not a week has passed since... Hope to get on track soon enough! :)

Edited by MickeK, Feb 26 2013 - 09:22 AM.


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Posted Feb 26 2013 - 01:12 PM

Hey MickeK,

Thanks for the explanation! :) I'm currently only driving the original 67 GPL, I think that untill I master it I should stick with 67 GPL. Today, I finally set lap times for all the tracks! I'm 7095th in the world but I've got some bad times that I just set to see where am I in the world. I really need to lower my times in spa, nordschleife, silverstone, zandvoort and monaco.

Mickek, did you try to drive online? I'm dying to try it? do we have to get into a league or can we just do a casual race?

Edited by Jarhead, Feb 26 2013 - 01:20 PM.


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Posted Feb 27 2013 - 01:51 AM

Let's say I aiming to take it online. But...

Started take it a bit serious (just because its so fun) last autumn and you're closing in on me already ;) . At the moment I'm in the low 6000 and just broke the first benchmark time (Silverstone). And those cicuits you mention will reward you as theres a lot of seconds to cut, especially the Ring.

I will try to get a bit better before I try to contact some of the leagues. Have no more experince of them than checking out a couple of links. If I find one I have enough skill to compete (at least a bit) I maybe try it soon. Have never even tried to connect.

I think it's wise to limit yourself to the original 67's to start with. I guess it depends how much time you're able to spend with GPL. To me it was temptating to test a few of the others with relation to seasons I followed as a teen. I now mix them in just a little to get a bit of variation and they are very fun to discover as well. Differnt kind of driving and wonderful cars and tracks to explore. But the original 67's is the "benchmark" of driving GPL in some way. Nervous cars but when you get into having them in control at speed they really are my first choice. The latest historical update puts an extra feel graphic "edge" to the driving as well as you do the races with the cars and drivers from back then.

Have a nice driving :)

My postings so far has made me Jimmy Clark (my old idol). Guess I'll have to stop post so it stays that way. Nice together with the pic ;).

Edited by MickeK, Feb 27 2013 - 01:56 AM.


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Posted Feb 28 2013 - 04:33 AM

I broke the benchmark only on Watkins Glen. Silverstone is an awesome track, I thought it'd be dull, but it turned out to be awesome! :) I added you on my buddy list. I contacted a few leagues and got into one, just have to connect in the right time because it's an American league. But I'll still wait a few more weeks till I get better with the AI and then conquer the league :P hahahaa

Yeah, untill I master the 67 GPL I won't do any mods. These old F1 cars are like rabid beasts. Much harder to control them then the cars in F1 2012.

Whenever Jimmy Clark passes, I feel like I'm going backwars lol

Well, I'm off, have to break more benchmark times.

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Posted Mar 01 2013 - 12:14 PM

Hey, two more questions, whats the difference between relative rankings and rankings. Relative rankings show that my rank is: 6420 and just rankings show my rank at: 6341.

What does 'relative' mean in 'show my ranks'?

I just can't break the benchmark at Monza, Kylami and Zandvoort. Those are tracks that I mostly drive at.

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Posted Mar 01 2013 - 03:15 PM

View PostJarhead, on Mar 01 2013 - 12:14 PM, said:

Hey, two more questions, whats the difference between relative rankings and rankings. Relative rankings show that my rank is: 6420 and just rankings show my rank at: 6341.
That's an interesting question. I had trouble working out which figures you were looking at, then I realised if I click on my GPLRank score (-23.047), and then click on the option which says "Show relative rankings", I see a new list of drivers. In the standard "Show my ranks" view, I'm listed at 2069, but in the "relative rankings" list I'm at 2061. I'm not sure why these numbers should be different. Maybe someone else with more familiarity with the GPLRank site could answer this? If you don't get an answer for this question here Jarhead, you could send an email to the GPLRank admins and ask them directly (admins@gplrank.info).

View PostJarhead, on Mar 01 2013 - 12:14 PM, said:

What does 'relative' mean in 'show my ranks'?
The number shown in the "relative" column lets you know what percentage of other drivers are below you for that particular rank. For example, if only 100 drivers had completed the GPLRank, and you were the best driver, your position would be 1, and your relative percentage would be 100%. If you were the worst driver in that list, your position would be 100, and your percentage would be 0%.

View PostJarhead, on Mar 01 2013 - 12:14 PM, said:

I just can't break the benchmark at Monza, Kylami and Zandvoort. Those are tracks that I mostly drive at.
If you seem to be "stuck" at certain tracks, then it might be a good idea to try looking at other drivers laps at those tracks, to see where they are faster than you, and where you could improve the speed of your driving. You could try downloading the world record lap replays for the tracks - although you would be a lot slower all the way around (like I am!), it could still give you a clue as to where you're losing the most time. Also, it might be that you've reached the best time you can with the particular setup you're using, and you may need to start thinking about making some adjustments to get the car to work better with your particular driving style.

Also, you should bear in mind that driving in GPL is tricky, and it can take many weeks/months/years to really get a feel for how the cars behave. It might be a good idea to give Monza, Kyalami and Zandvoort a rest, and try driving at some of the other tracks instead. This will give you more variety in your driving experience, and will allow you to learn how the cars behave when you're driving through different types of corners.

Edited by Saiph, Mar 01 2013 - 03:22 PM.


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Posted Mar 03 2013 - 02:54 AM

Thanks Saiph, you've been really helpful! If nobody posts here about the rankings, I'll email the GPL rank admins in a few days and see what they'll say.

Thanks again, and I'll try some other tracks out, give Monza, Kylami and Zandvoort a rest.  :)

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Posted Mar 03 2013 - 08:33 AM

I'm finding this an interesting thread. I'm the same, in that I drive the same circuit all the time. I did wonder if driving other circuits would help my driving, Thanks Saiph.

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Posted Mar 05 2013 - 07:04 AM

Hi Jarhead, I'm not sure as I can't see any "relative rank" expressed in a position in the list. But two different hcp:s are listed, one for all lap times and another just for lap times during races - but that is obvious. Then a percentage bar expressing "Relative" and my guess is that the value expresses "the percentage you've obtained compared to benchmark all cicuits".

Found you in the rank and added as a buddy as well. In 107% we seem to be at 50/50 reagarding records on the tracks. You have a quicker development than me for sure so I guess you soon will overtake if you keep up that pace... Perhaps I can blame my total absence from any other SIM (or computer game for that matter) and you perhaps have some experience from other SIMs before. But even if I'm of historical age as well ;) I learn and get better so let's see how long I can compete with a youngster like you :).

BTW I still stick to my "plan" before I try to get into some on-line racing and that is to hit the +50 hcp and get through a complete Grand Prix season together with the AI's. Bougt this great game years ago but after some "driving around" back then I didn't reinstalled it until last summer when I found out about all the upgrades and mods. From then I was hooked and now I try to get some hours each week behind the wheel. Great relaxion! Have to get a new shifter though and in Sweden you're not able to buy separate shifters to G25. I liked the shifter driving and are now back at paddles unitil I saved enough to buy a new wheel.

Well, let's keep in touch and don't drive too often so I can keep up... :D

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Posted Mar 14 2013 - 02:47 AM

Hey MickeK!

Sorry I haven't been around, been busy in college and just broke my braking pedal. :/ It was a deadman's braking point in laguna seca. lol
I haven't even checked out the 107%, what's it about? I've got my dad giving me advices how to drive those rabid beasts! :) He says it's the most realistic simulator he ever tried. Yeah, I've driven a lot of different SIMs. My favorite were NASCAR THUNDER 2004, GP4 and F1 2012 (Which I still drive) and I've probably got more time during the day to drive the GPL, my only obligation being going to college and studying. :)

That's a good plan! Driving on all tracks against the AI's. The game is as you said a great relaxation! :) I've got the logitech formula force ex, it's okay, it gets stuff done :) I'm currently down for driving, so go get some times done! ;)

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Posted Mar 14 2013 - 09:23 AM

Hi Jarhead,

Breaking the braking pedal? That's heavy braking ;). As I told you I broke my G25 shifter and that seems to be a more common thing. Even mounted it down to try a repair but didn't suceed at all :(. Shifting with paddles at the moment but prefer a shifter. Have to adapt though as buying a new unit have to wait. At least I can drive. Without brake is worse...

I have a short break driving right now as I got hooked in personalizing my 67 and 69X cars. So I've dug in those different files and doing a bit work that stealing my after-work-driving-time. Therefore no new records last week and shortly I will spend a week downhill skiing. Perhaps a couple of weeks outside the cock pit will help to continue my climbing down to +50 hcp.

I really like GPL and it's enough to focus on that for me at the moment. Good luck with the pedal!

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Posted Mar 17 2013 - 05:51 AM

Yeah, it was as we say in Croatia, a deadman's braking lol. G25 is expensive... Try giving it to a mechanic or something.. I've always used paddles :)

You can personalize cars? wow, I didn't know that. What kinda personalizations do you do? I like sledding more... But where I live, we don't get that much snow, even though this year has been surprisingly well snow-wise. :)

Thanks, I think it should be repaired this week. ;)

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Posted Mar 18 2013 - 04:25 AM

In my case I've put name tags on the 67 Historical upgrade cars, put a little swedish flag on and made a helmet of my own. I now do the same (but more tricky) to the 69X Mod cars.

It's a bit tricky as different files have to be converted, edited in some program and replaced. It's discussed in those threads:

67Historical:
http://srmz.net/inde...?showtopic=8925

69X:
http://srmz.net/inde...8934#entry87643


Me and my daughters visited Croatia in 2007 and we did NOT ski ;). Had a great time though, mostly on island Krk.

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Posted Mar 18 2013 - 06:46 AM

I've been to Krk (and Istra) too. Beautiful place.

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Posted Mar 22 2013 - 03:22 AM

It looks cool! I repaired my brake and drove again, and broke it again lol. Looks like I'm gonna be buying a g25 or a g27.. which one is better?

Really, you've been to Krk, and Miguelito, you've been to Istra too? I live in Opatija, that's like in the middle of those 2. http://www.monitor.a...ja-Croatia.jpeg This is where I live.  I believe you were here during the summer? How long does it take to come from Sweden to here? like a whole day?  Miguelito, where u from? :)

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