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#1 Tharnvi

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Posted Aug 09 2009 - 01:17 PM

Not as we need more drivers but we can at least share some results and impressions of this wonderful mod with you.

Last Tuseday the seventh season of SSR Historic GT went of with a bang. 28 drivers started a 22 lap race at Le Mans.

The league will consist of 11 races at the following tracks
Le Mans
Le Mas Du Clos
Mallory Park
Oulton Park 2005, Classic
Monaco (GPC)
Nurburgring (VLN)
Mexico City 67
Rouen 55
Kyalami (GPC)
Road Atlanta
Spa-Francorchamps 67

We have tested the cars during the summer to establish a kind of performance ranking and altered the real FIA classes some what to give us four classes with balanced car groupings. Of course there are slower and faster cars in every group and we cope with that trough a handicap system where the best placed drivers in the last race have to drive the slower cars.

For results from our league please visit
http://sls.swedishsi.....est]=calendar
You can also download replay files from every race there.

If you read Swedish you can get all the information in our forum and maybe sign up for a spot on the reserve list.
http://forum.swedishsimracers.com

If you have any question about SSR or this particular league please don’t hesitate to ask.

I will give a brief report here after each race to let all of you know how fun and good the racing is with P&G 2.

#2 Tharnvi

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Posted Aug 09 2009 - 01:56 PM

Impressions from Le Mans

22 laps in a mixed field, the fastest cars percent was two GT4 mk II and the slowest was a lonely Elan, is a tuff challenge for any one. Cars for this race where decided by using a budget model. Every driver has a budget that must cover car costs for three races during this season. The faster cars, like the prototypes, are very expensive and slower cars are cheap. If you use an expensive car you must be pretty sure that it will pay of or else your chances in the next two races under budget restrictions will be lost to.

28 cars started the race and 19 made it to the flag. One of the GT40 won the race, lapping all other cars on the grid, but the other one damaged the suspension on lap five and was out of the race.

Al of the DNF’s where due to contact with trackside objects. Even slight touches with poles or fences seemed to be enough to put a car out of the race. Maybe the Virtua-LM has put to much concrete in some objects but any how it’s a glorious track to begin a season with.

American V8-power dominated the grid and the race results. The only other cars that scored points where one Ferrari 275 GTB/C Speciale, three Ferrari 275 GTB/C and one Jaguar E-type Lightweight 5spd. Points are awarded down to the 15;th position.

In qualification one car broke the 4 minute barrier and locked set for success. It was not to be. In the start of the race the other GT40 jump his team mate and the hunt continued for four laps where both drivers pushed the cars down to lap times around 4:02 regardless of fuel load and tire consumption. On the fifth lap disaster stroke for the pole sitter and a hit against a fence put the car out of the race. The surviving GT40 could parade on to victory.

Behind the GT40 there was a Corvette L88 that quite easily held on to second place. This car is no easy drive but the driver held a steady pace and posted lap times around 4:15 for the whole race.

From third down to sixth the battle was hard. Two Daytonas, one Corvette C2 L72 Coupe and one Ferrari 275 GTB/C Speciale traded places and fought for positions. The pit strategies played a crucial role in the outcome. On of the Daytonas took the final podium position but the Corvette was not far behind. In fifth place a nervous drivers nursed home the fragile Ferrari in front of another Daytona.

The first race was a success and the preparations for the next even are already under way. The next report will cover a TC grp 2 (modified) race at Le Mas du Close.

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Posted Aug 22 2009 - 03:49 AM

30 cars at Le Mas du Clos

Our TC grp2 race at the Le Mas du Clos attaracted 30 drivers in cars ranging from Alfa Romeo GTA 1600 to Jaguar MK1 3.4. With no less than nine GTA and two 1300 Junior the practice looked somewhat like a track day for Club Alfa Romeo.

After qualification it was pretty clear that the GTA 1600 was the car to beat here. One 1300 Junior and some Lotus Cortina’s where seen in the higher positions and the only Alpine 1100 in the field challenged for a place in the top ten.

The race were held over 30 laps and after a fierce fight from second place down to 16;th the points where awarded to six of the GTA’s, both 1300 Junior, The Alpine and six Lotus Cortina’s. The winner was a GTA in a class of its own beating the second placed 1300 Junior with over 17 seconds and the third placed Lotus Cortina with another 5 seconds.

Only four DNF’s is quite remarkable at this demanding and quite dangerous track. A sign as good as any of the high standard that the drivers in this league usually display.

Next race is also contested in TC grp2; at Mallory Park September 1;st. Can the Jaguars score any points there, maybe its time for a Mustang on the podium or will it be an Alfa Romeo triumph again? I will report here after the race.

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Posted Sep 04 2009 - 06:54 AM

Mallory Park

32 cars on this short track where a thrilling experience that took its toll among the drivers.
We lined up for 48 laps in every possible car in our TC grp 2 except the MINI 1275. A bit odd when the weather was unstable and rain was possible.
The mixed grid and the mixed experience among the drivers made the race very eventful. There where cars passing, lapping and being lapped all around the track the whole race.
Even if the track was damp during the race it was not wet enough to pose a problem for the Mustang. One of the Mustang Grp 2 drivers took the start and held on to first place all the way to the chequered flag. The nearest contender were a couple of Alfa GTA;s and another Mustang. In the middle of the field there where more Alfas and some Lotus Cortinas. One lonely MINI 970 mixed with one of the Lotus Cortinas for the last point but lost out on the final laps.
In the back of the field large Jaguars, small Abarths, some Healey MK1;s, one Alpine 1100 and one Cortina GT tried their best not to be in the way of the faster cars ahead.

Eleven cars where taken out by hard objects or technical problems. A rather large number compared to other racers in our league. The tight, short track must be blamed for some of them.
Next race will be held at Oulton Park with the bigger machines from TC grp 5. More space and run-of areas will hopefully make it possible for more cars to reach the finish line there.

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Posted Sep 05 2009 - 04:44 AM

View PostTharnvi, on Aug 9 2009, 09:56 PM, said:

Impressions from Le Mans
One of the drivers have posted a compilaton of images on youtube Very nice!

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Posted Sep 06 2009 - 12:16 PM

Nice job!  :thumbup:
also for the soundtrack

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Posted Sep 30 2009 - 12:01 PM

Outlon and Monaco

Hello again. You may have wondered about what happened to our league as its 4 weeks since the last report now. Well the race at Oulton Park was cancelled due to technical problems. We do not know if it was the track, the server or just bad luck but one third of the field did get a DNF or DQ due to the so called exclusion bug.  If the race had gone according to plan the Total Team ATCC Mustangs had the upper hand and would totally have dominated the field.

We went to Monaco, the 79 version, this week. Alfa GTA Volumetrico was the preferred weapon even if some posted laps in the 1:50’s in qualification trim with the mighty Total Team ATCC Mustang. We had some drivers with the same kind of troubles as at Oulton Park but the race went on. 23 laps took the 26 cars at the start down to 14 finishers, none of them without scars and dents. Alfas, some Mustangs of different kinds, three Alpine 1300 and two Abarth Gr5 made it in to the point this time.

Next race will be the intimidating Nordschleife. For that race we switch to our own mix of the slower GT-cars with Elan, GT350 , E-type, Ferrari 275 & 250, Corvette L72, Falcon Weslake Heads, Elite, TR4 and Big Healey. That will be great fun.

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Posted Oct 01 2009 - 10:34 AM

sounds great. is it possible to join some races as guest driver?

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Posted Oct 17 2009 - 01:16 PM

Nordschleife VLN
Now we have done our race at the most epic track of all; Nordschleife. It was held in our GTC grp3 class and the expected top cars would be the Lotus Elan, GT350 and E-Type Lightweight. The race was held over nine laps and the outcome was almost as expected. I had however the fortune to place the Ferrari 250 GT-SWB Competizione that I was allotted for this race on fifth place beating some Elans, GT350’s, all E-types and the faster 275 GTB Competiziones. The track took its toll on the cars and drivers. Out of the 27 starters there were 11 DNF. But we how made it to the finish hade a great race. After over 94 minutes of hard racing with different pit strategies only 2.1 second separated the Elan in first place from the GT350R CASC in second.
The next outing will be at Mexico -67 in the same cars. The Elans will meet a serious challenge from the V8’s here and there will be plenty off good drifting to watch.

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Posted Nov 06 2009 - 10:11 AM

Mexico City 1967
As I expected the fight would be between the Elans and the GT 350s. In the beginning of the race the 350s had the upper hand due to out right speed down the long strait and the ability to drift with decent speed through the bends. As the race progressed the tyres of the 350s where worn out and the Elanss started to catch them. In the end there where three Elans in top followed by a pair of 350s. One driver did a very fine job in bringing the sole Ferrari 250 GT SWB Competizione home in sixth place. The rest of the pack was made up of more Elans, E-types, a Triumph, Ferrari 275 GTB/C, one Elite a Healey and one Falcon Weslake Heads.
An interesting mix on an interesting track.
Next week we will visit France again for a 90 minutes race at Rouen-Les-Essarts featuring cars from nearly all the classes on track.

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Posted Nov 06 2009 - 10:47 AM

Those racer reports are very very nice! Please keep posting, we love them!

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Posted Nov 13 2009 - 01:20 AM

View PostAristotelis, on Nov 6 2009, 06:47 PM, said:

Those racer reports are very very nice! Please keep posting, we love them!
Thanks!
Here is the next one.

France revisited

A mixed field from our special endurance class took to the track for a +90 minutes race outside Rouen. The driver in the fast and nimble Porsche 906 Carrera 6/8 was one pole and regarded as the favourite for a race win. In second there was a Shelby Cobra 427 Roadster and the rest of the top performers in qualification drove Ferrari 275 GTB/C Speciale or Shelby GT-350R CASC. In the middle of the grid some drivers in Chevrolet Corvette C2 L72 Coupe, Ford Mustang ATCC and Shelby GT-350R SCCA saw the opportunity to score some points in cheaper cars. The cars in the back of the grid where Ferrari 275 GTB/C, Lotus Elan 26R, Jaguar E-type Lightweight, Shelby Cobra 289 Roadster and one Shelby Daytona Coupe.

Eight laps at this demanding and rather high speed track took it’s toll. Eight of the 24 cars on the grid didn’t make it to the finish. After a good fight with the Cobra 427, driven masterly by a very skilled driver, the Porsche 906 clinched the victory. In third we had the first 275 Speciale. The Mustang ATCC from Total Team proved to be an excellent budget choice here and managed to score a decent amount of points behind the 350R CASC. The other Shelby cars, the Cobra 289 Roadster and Daytona, proved to be a handful for their drivers and did not make it to the finish.

To get an impression of the level of driving in our league you can look at the attached replay. It’s from one of the drivers training sessions and demonstrates the beauty and finesse in a fast lap with the lovely Shelby GT350R CASC. As always you can access the complete reply and race result at http://sls.swedishsimracers.com.

For the next race we take another step up the car ladder and move to our fastest GT-class with Corvettes of all kinds, all the Shelby cars and some British E-types and Elan. We have also thrown in an Italian Stallion in the mix, the 275 Speciale. The first venue in this class will be at Kyalami.

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Posted Nov 13 2009 - 09:12 AM

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Posted Nov 28 2009 - 09:45 AM

Kyalami (The GPC 79 version)
I have now been able to digest the impressions from South Africa. It vas an epic race! Not just because yours truly won the race but for the unique rhythm and feel of this high speed track combined with a mixed field of 27 cars.

Practice and qualification was dominated by Shelby Cobra 427 Roadster and Ferrari 275 GTB/C Speciale. I was in the sole Chevrolet Corvette C2 L88 Coupe and managed to squeeze my car in to fifth position on the grid.

At the start I made the most out of torque and tires on the L88 and was fourth trough T1 even if a lost one place to the Cobra placed sixth on the grid. That Cobra lost a bit of traction in turn three and I was able to slip by in to third. On the long S/F straight I used my top speed to overtake another Cobra in to second. A couple of laps later I lined up the leading Ferraris at the exit of the turn out on S/F straight and, thanks to the great acceleration of my Corvette, by the time we arrived at the kink I was ahead an could maintain my lead. I had 26 laps of nursing my tires and looking at a Cobra that moved up to second place, in my mirror. The distance between me and the Cobra where never more than four seconds, usually less.

In the rest of the field there were fierce battles between some Shelby GT-350Rs, one Shelby Daytona Coupe, one Shelby Cobra 289 Roadster and one Elan for place eight to fifteen. A pack of Chevrolet Corvette C2 L72 Coupes were mixing with one Jaguar E-type Lightweight 5spd at the end of the field.

A high speed track like this in these cars is bound to take some casualties and six drivers newer saw the chequered flag. On of the last drivers were two laps behind in a Shelby GT-350R CASC. It was the championship leader that had a nasty crash during the first laps when he spun in the kink and hit the Armco at the pit entrance. He limped back and spent two laps in the pits for repairs. He thought about parking it but the car was so entertaining and delightful to drive so he just had to go on, dead last but with a grin on his face. A witness as good as any about the quality of this mod.

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Posted Dec 01 2009 - 03:05 AM

It looks like you had lot's of fun again eh? Congrats for the win, thanks for the story. :)




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