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#61 leon_90

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Posted Dec 07 2017 - 03:36 AM

PRC has been shutdown :D

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Posted Dec 07 2017 - 04:29 AM

Haha, dude must have gotten really salty by the criticism from us "GPL-elitists" about his article.

Given, he may has a point on a few things but after second read (after reading comments of others), I also have to conclude it was a bit of rubbish article.

#63 John Woods

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Posted Dec 07 2017 - 06:27 AM

View Postleon_90, on Dec 07 2017 - 03:36 AM, said:

PRC has been shutdown :D

Home page, (page linked in post #1), says its gone private.

Really really really hope it was not because of comments here.

(Irrelevant comments deleted)

Hopeful it will be public again.



:D

Edited by John Woods, Dec 07 2017 - 07:41 AM.


#64 leon_90

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Posted Dec 07 2017 - 06:57 AM

View PostJohn Woods, on Dec 07 2017 - 06:27 AM, said:

View Postleon_90, on Dec 07 2017 - 03:36 AM, said:

PRC has been shutdown :D

Home page, (page linked in post #1), says its gone private.

Really really really hope it was not because of comments here.
[...]
Hopeful it will be public again.


Don't worry, its Ian Bell who shut it down. Was his scheme since he bought the site almost a year ago. This has nothing to do with us ;) just wrong timing, but at least we got some visibility, one way or another :D

http://www.twitlonge.../show/n_1sqbpg8

The End
As of mid-day, December 7th, 2017, you will no longer be able to access PretendRaceCars (dot) net, nor will it be available in search queries.

My goal in running PRC was basically to just share how I personally felt about race car games both past and present. I am honored that many, MANY people around the planet shared my personal viewpoints, and I am especially grateful for the ESL individuals that have written to me and revealed they've used PRC to further their understanding of the English language - you guys rock.

Unfortunately, not everyone interprets the existence of PRC as a guy running a blog talking about video games he both likes, and doesn't like.

With my current position at SMS, I know a little more about what goes on behind closed doors, both in terms of development, and how the race car game ecosystem works. This includes how other people around the industry feel about things written/showcased PRC.

Obviously, any negative review of another game, no matter how factual or how many others agree with it and report similar findings of their own, comes under intense scrutiny for a multitude of reasons - most notably conflict of interest. And it's just a massive hassle to continue to argue that "no, your game really isn't that good, I'm sorry" when these people come knocking.

As Ian Bell suggested, the best approach from here on out is to just kill the blog entirely to prevent these conflicts from arising, and focus 100% on changing the industry from the inside with the tools and connections we have available.

So that's what we'll be doing instead.

#65 John Woods

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Posted Dec 07 2017 - 07:37 AM

So there is more to the story.
Thanks Leon, (think I got it right this time), for the update and clarification.



:D

Edited by John Woods, Dec 07 2017 - 08:04 AM.


#66 Stefan Roess

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Posted Dec 07 2017 - 09:11 AM

View PostPete Gaimari, on Dec 06 2017 - 09:07 AM, said:

Road course always meant it was a road racing course and not an oval. It didn't mean it was made with public roads.

Race track means it's any kind race track including oval, dirt, kart etc etc.

As an example. Daytona is a race track, but it's an oval with a road course in the infield and part of the oval.

Call Nurburgring a road course was right.

Pete, I guess you are wrong.
According to the way the tracks are classified at the GPLTD it looks that a Road Course track consists of public roads that are closed for racing.
A race track is a permanent race track only used for racing.

See:

Daytona Road Course (1967)
Circuit Type:  Racetrack
http://gpltd.bcsims.com/?sbtd=dayto24h


Solitude-Ring
Circuit Type:  Road Course
http://gpltd.bcsims.com/?sbtd=solitude
-> when there was no race the roads where used as public roads

Avus  1967
Circuit Type:  Road Course
http://gpltd.bcsims.com/?sbtd=avus67


Pebble Beach  1956
Circuit Type:  Road Course
http://gpltd.bcsims.com/?sbtd=pebble


Spa Francorchamps  1967 (Papy original)
Circuit Type:  Road Course
http://gpltd.bcsims.com/?sbtd=spa
-> in the beginning the track consits of public roads

Spa Francorchamps  1998
Circuit Type:  Racetrack
http://gpltd.bcsims.com/?sbtd=spa98
-> later a permanent race track was built

Hockenheimring  1967
Circuit Type:  Racetrack
http://gpltd.bcsims.com/?sbtd=hockenhm



->> according to this the Nürbugring has to be called a "Race Track" as it never consisted of public roads. But the Nordschleife is also opened for the public. This may confuse some people. You can buy a ticket and you can drive on it even with your family car, BUT you are not driving on public roads. I have done myself on motorcyles and cars. ;)
Here you can see pictures of the bulding of the Nürburgring (scroll down to 18. / 19. Juli 1927):
http://pro-steilstre...buringimbau.htm

Edited by Stefan Roess, Dec 07 2017 - 09:13 AM.


#67 Pete Gaimari

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Posted Dec 07 2017 - 09:32 AM

I'm not wrong. It depends on where you live.

https://en.wikipedia...iki/Road_racing

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Posted Dec 07 2017 - 09:44 AM

View PostPete Gaimari, on Dec 07 2017 - 09:32 AM, said:

I'm not wrong. It depends on where you live.

https://en.wikipedia...iki/Road_racing

Interesting.
Looks like we both are not wrong, depending on where you live. :)
But the GPLTD seems to have a "european" classification, even so Bill Cooper is located in the USA. :book:

Edited by Stefan Roess, Dec 07 2017 - 09:46 AM.


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Posted Dec 07 2017 - 09:56 AM

Thanks Stefan for the clarification on the ring.

Didn't realise that the ring was a man made track, so to speak.

Always thought it was public roads, that on race day, obviously, was closed down and dressed for motor racing purpose.

Thanks again 😁

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Posted Dec 07 2017 - 09:56 AM

In the end. It doesn't matter that much, but we all know we want to drive on a road course. :P

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Posted Dec 07 2017 - 10:13 AM

Always seemed amazing there were rumble strips on public roads in Europe.
Bad enough being jealous of the Autobahn.




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Edited by John Woods, Dec 07 2017 - 10:16 AM.





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