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#21 jgf

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Posted Mar 16 2020 - 02:30 PM

Used Avast ages ago, also Avira and Panda, using Kaspersky the past couple of years and quite satisfied with it.  MSE and Defender consistently score near the bottom in comparison tests.  But common sense is the best AV.

FWIW, I recall one symptom of my GPL/GEM issues was Gem constantly rebuilding one or more of the exes when started.  I often suspect some problems are just running this  ancient software on modern Micro$oft, newer windows sinking its tendrils into everything.

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Posted Mar 16 2020 - 08:15 PM

Ah, that's why I run GPL in linux, no spyware and no AV...

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Posted Mar 17 2020 - 01:58 AM

View Postjgf, on Mar 16 2020 - 02:30 PM, said:

MSE and Defender consistently score near the bottom in comparison tests.

Eeeehhhmmm....no. ;)

https://www.av-test....s/home-windows/

It's actually up par with the other products.

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But common sense is the best AV.

Absolutely true.

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Posted Mar 17 2020 - 02:46 AM

I use ESET Smart Security and some of my mods wouldn't launch when they are not added to the HIPS (Host-based Intrusion Prevention System) exclusion list. Which is aimed at malware, not AV.

Could also be something in your firewall settings.

Edited by Millennium, Mar 17 2020 - 02:48 AM.


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Posted Mar 17 2020 - 04:33 AM

Well Ive gotten the back up to work again. Still a little buggy with GEM but at least it works.

Thanks again guys.

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Posted Mar 17 2020 - 04:56 AM

"While Windows Defender traditionally ranked below third-party antivirus software, it’s now improved enough to claim the number six slot on PCMag’s annual top ten list. Its malware detection capabilities have risen greatly, and it performed well in hands-on testing. Still, PCMag is half-hearted in their recommendation:

“Windows Defender is improving, but you still shouldn’t rely on Windows 10’s security tools as your sole means of protection. Many free third-party apps are more effective at keeping you safe.” — Neil J. Rubenking, PCMag Best Free Antivirus Protection for 2020

https://www.avg.com/...ivirus-software


But use whatever you are comfortable with.  What is "best" one year may not even make the list a year later, and often it takes secondary programs, such as Malwarebytes or Unhackme, to give satisfactory protection.  I currently use, and recommend, Kaspersky Free, but also run Unhackme along with it.  (And once a month I clone my entire drive to an external drive ... the ultimate protection, lol.)

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Posted Mar 17 2020 - 10:35 AM

View Postjgf, on Mar 17 2020 - 04:56 AM, said:

"While Windows Defender traditionally ranked below third-party antivirus software, it’s now improved enough to claim the number six slot on PCMag’s annual top ten list. Its malware detection capabilities have risen greatly, and it performed well in hands-on testing. Still, PCMag is half-hearted in their recommendation:

“Windows Defender is improving, but you still shouldn’t rely on Windows 10’s security tools as your sole means of protection. Many free third-party apps are more effective at keeping you safe.” — Neil J. Rubenking, PCMag Best Free Antivirus Protection for 2020

https://www.avg.com/...ivirus-software


But use whatever you are comfortable with.  What is "best" one year may not even make the list a year later, and often it takes secondary programs, such as Malwarebytes or Unhackme, to give satisfactory protection.  I currently use, and recommend, Kaspersky Free, but also run Unhackme along with it.  (And once a month I clone my entire drive to an external drive ... the ultimate protection, lol.)
and perhaps PCMAGS'  is respecting antivir lobbies knocking at their door

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Posted Mar 17 2020 - 11:22 AM

yes like Car and drivers ,motor trend and other magazines of the same kind who give  the car of the year award to the company who buy the most ads to the magazine ,  whaths amaze me more is to categorise Microsoft as a evil capitalist empire , its like there competitors were charitable ,non -profit organistations

Edited by KARTM, Mar 17 2020 - 11:35 AM.


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Posted Mar 17 2020 - 01:30 PM

View PostM Needforspeed, on Mar 17 2020 - 10:35 AM, said:

and perhaps PCMAGS'  is respecting antivir lobbies knocking at their door

Then check all the other sites/labs doing comparisons.  I listed that as it was the first i found.

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Posted Mar 17 2020 - 01:39 PM

View PostKARTM, on Mar 17 2020 - 11:22 AM, said:

... Microsoft as a evil capitalist empire , its like there competitors were charitable ,non -profit organistations

Why did windows, by all standards the worst OS thirty years ago and still the worst, become the number one OS worldwide?  Because the options (OS2, etc.), while better, all required DOS;  Bill Gates licensed DOS to all the manufacturers quite cheaply ....with the provision that on any system on which they installed DOS they would also install windows.  So, as a manufacturer, you could try to educate a public new to computers to a dual boot system ...or just give t hem windows and hope to sell your better OS to those who recognized the difference.  We see how well that worked.

And while the developers of other OS listen to their customers and try to create what they want, Micro$oft's draconian programmers toss out what they want us to have and insist we use it their way.  Every new version of windows has removed more and more end user configurability from the OS (don't know what comes after win10 but perhaps MS will still let us select our own wallpaper).

Edited by jgf, Mar 17 2020 - 01:43 PM.


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Posted Mar 17 2020 - 03:07 PM

Now if Microsoft is an old white shark,the long time so praised Apple is an Orca .Discreet, round shaped and good looking but a superior killer

Edited by M Needforspeed, Mar 17 2020 - 03:48 PM.


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Posted Mar 17 2020 - 03:23 PM

Do we know how to hijack a thread, or what.  lol

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Posted Mar 18 2020 - 03:25 AM

Lol , my issue is resolved here in this thread so by all means gentlemen , keep it going for as long as you want.

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Posted Mar 18 2020 - 03:31 AM

Glad to hear that you're happy D_J! :up:

Now, how do we fly this thing to Cuba? Anyone know where the rudder pedals are? :muttley:

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Posted Mar 18 2020 - 05:43 AM

Well when I think about Saiph I might have a related issue to the one I had in this thread. I got the backup to work , now I have that weird camera angle on replays (straight above with camera twitch) which I seem to remember you mentioned something about concerning gplshift in another thread , some sort of tweak you did to gplshift to straighten out the tv1 and 2 cameras on replays?

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Posted Mar 18 2020 - 11:11 AM

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Posted Mar 18 2020 - 11:25 AM

:up:

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Posted Aug 31 2020 - 12:25 PM

I have the exact same problem with GEM. When I closed it on Saturday I got this message, and since then it's all the same :(

I tried reinstalling, various compatibility modes, deleted gem.ini... I don't have any other av app beside the default win defender.

I'm using Win10 with all updates.

Any help appreciated.

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Posted Sep 01 2020 - 06:40 AM

Hi Jani.
Do you have a backup gpl.exe ?

Try installing the backup and start Gem+


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Posted Sep 01 2020 - 08:49 AM

View Postfajanko, on Aug 31 2020 - 12:25 PM, said:

I tried reinstalling, various compatibility modes, deleted gem.ini... I don't have any other av app beside the default win defender.

I'm using Win10 with all updates.

Do you know that in Windows 10 the gem.ini and sgem.ini that GEM uses are located in C:\Users\Public\Documents\GEM+ - and I have no idea why.

Edited by Bob Simpson, Sep 01 2020 - 08:49 AM.





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