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#21 nardin

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Posted Sep 16 2011 - 01:01 PM

This rig has to be the most brilliant piece of kit ever built for simracing !
I'm truly speachless, well done Remco.

As I've been living abroad for 2 years - which means away from my «racing computer», wheel and pedals - your photos actually make me a bit nostalgic. What wouldn't do to spend a day and a night driving in your replica tub?!

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Posted Sep 16 2011 - 01:06 PM

I forgot to ask, what about the length of the rig vs. ... well, your own dimensions? Did you have to move the seat around, or maybe the pedals? Culminating at just over 6 feet, I know only too well how legroom can be an issue.

If I ever did a project similar to yours, I guess I'd have to build an Eagle ...  :)

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Posted Sep 19 2011 - 03:31 PM

View Postnardin, on Sep 16 2011 - 01:06 PM, said:

I forgot to ask, what about the length of the rig vs. ... well, your own dimensions? Did you have to move the seat around, or maybe the pedals? Culminating at just over 6 feet, I know only too well how legroom can be an issue.

If I ever did a project similar to yours, I guess I'd have to build an Eagle ...  :)

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Hey man, thanks :)

There was a guy on RSC determined to build an Eagle cockpit but I don't think it ever emerged.

Lucky for me, I have a similar physique to Depailler (neither tall or muscular) so I had no trouble making the car fit.
I think Peterson was taller than the both of us!

The whole idea was to find a suitable cockpit that was really cramped, a bit of a hassle getting into and didn't allow for left foot braking. The 6-wheeler certainly fits the bill there!
I love squeezing into this rig, it automatically puts me in the correct state of mind.
Also, it reminds me of my sea kayaking days when I had to squeeze into my trusty Nordkapp's cockpit.


Check out this telling picture of Michel Leclére in the Williams FW05. Now thát's tight!

And that's what she said.
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Posted Sep 20 2011 - 08:51 PM

Well, now that Remco's rig was even mentioned by Jessica L. , must be the highlight of one's life, no? ;)   :drunk:

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Posted Sep 21 2011 - 03:35 AM

View PostRudy Dingemans, on Sep 20 2011 - 08:51 PM, said:

Well, now that Remco's rig was even mentioned by Jessica L. , must be the highlight of one's life, no? ;)   :drunk:

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Indeed!

I thought she looked very impressed too... :clap2:

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Posted Sep 21 2011 - 11:22 AM

jessica l? what am i missing here, who's that, what when where?

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Posted Sep 21 2011 - 01:01 PM

The P34 was featured as Rig of the Week in the latest InsideSimRacing episode (from 7:30)



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Posted Sep 21 2011 - 01:21 PM

ahha. gotcha :thumbup:. two and a half gs though. whoa that is stiff.

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Posted Sep 21 2011 - 06:50 PM

Yeah, it adds up quick!

Steel 335
Alu 300
Fiberglass 400
Primer + paint 150
Bearings 260
U-joint 80
Loadcell 75
USB shifter 200
Electrics 125
Sparco 160
Misc 200+

And the list goes on...

Does not include the 2000+ I spent on the space and tools.
Does not include the ~1200 I spent on the commute to and from the workspace.
Does not include the launchparty which is scheduled for nov 20th 2011

Also does not include the Bodnar wheel which is another 2,500  :lol:

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Posted Sep 22 2011 - 03:10 AM

doood! for that kinda money you could've just bought a real car linkypinky and grab some loadcells and whatnot and hook them up to the pedals and dismantle your logitec wheel.
actually that was one of the mental ideas i came up with one night. just disconnect all the gear and you're good to go on a real track lol.

but seriously, kudos to you for that kinda commitment. your virtual car is more expensive than my last real car :shock:

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Posted Sep 22 2011 - 03:10 AM

View PostRemco Hitman, on Sep 21 2011 - 06:50 PM, said:

Yeah, it adds up quick!

Steel 335
Alu 300
Fiberglass 400
Primer + paint 150
Bearings 260
U-joint 80
Loadcell 75
USB shifter 200
Electrics 125
Sparco 160
Misc 200+

And the list goes on...

Does not include the 2000+ I spent on the space and tools.
Does not include the ~1200 I spent on the commute to and from the workspace.
Does not include the launchparty which is scheduled for nov 20th 2011

Also does not include the Bodnar wheel which is another 2,500  :lol:

:shock: :shock: :shock:  

Geez Remco... that is a load of dingo my man. 7985 dingo`s...

2,500 for a Bodnar?

Won`t be having one of them for a while then :lol:

Hope I get an invite to the launch party though. :clap2:

:cheers:

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Posted Sep 23 2011 - 09:30 AM

View PostRudy Dingemans, on Sep 20 2011 - 08:51 PM, said:

Well, now that Remco's rig was even mentioned by Jessica L. , must be the highlight of one's life, no? ;)   :drunk:
I had no idea what you were talking about, Rudy, but I found the Sim Racing Week you're referring too.

Remco, not only is Jessica impressed by your work, she also likes the smell of plastic. And that's an actual quote!  :blink: ;)

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Posted Sep 24 2011 - 02:46 PM

View Posttjc, on Sep 22 2011 - 03:10 AM, said:

:shock: :shock: :shock:  

Geez Remco... that is a load of dingo my man. 7985 dingo`s...

2,500 for a Bodnar?

Won`t be having one of them for a while then :lol:

Hope I get an invite to the launch party though. :clap2:

:cheers:


They're not for sale  :lol:

There are less than 20 in existence, Leo builds them only to pre-order from racing teams and manufacturers of commercial full-body motion simulators.
Lucky for me, my buddy Niels has worked with some teams on their simulators and that was my way in.
Naturally, Niels has one too so I know what I'm buying. After trying his I couldn't NOT order one. Everything else would be unworthy of a place in the P34.
One of the reasons it's not commercially available is that it's complicated to set up. It's not even a wheel package, it's really just a motor, a power supply and a USB board.
I'm going to need Niels to help me set it up.

It is a powerful unit which reaches maximum torque really fast. What that means is that the FF ceiling is much higher which increases the fidelity of the effects. A G25 set fairly high will provide maximum torque when you hit a kerb but the force you feel when hitting a wall won't be any higher which of course it should be. Leo's wheel doesn't show this limitation.

To illustrate a faint impression of the power of this thing, check it out in this vid.
What you see is the motor. That's not the housing, just the bare motor. The wheel bolts straight onto the shaft.

http://www.youtube.c...u/4/xZBq0ROvzkA

The sensation of driving is just so much better and pretty taxing as well. I took Niels' experimental Group C car around the Nordschleife for 5 laps and I gotta tell you I was as knackered as I am after two heats of karting! There is no going back  :clap2:

Edited by Remco Hitman, Sep 25 2011 - 03:05 PM.


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Posted Sep 24 2011 - 03:40 PM

Small update btw :)

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Posted Sep 25 2011 - 03:01 PM

Wow!

:shock:

Those Bodnars certainly do sound like quite impressive bits of kit and I agree, if you can afford to have one then nothing else would do for such an awesome rig as your P34.

Like the update too btw...

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Posted Sep 26 2011 - 01:25 PM

Great JOB!!!!!!!!and STORY!!!

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Posted Sep 29 2011 - 10:44 AM

Okay the bodywork is done so now I'm concentrating on the cross-sections and this week I've done some work on the lateral support bracket. It complements the A-frame by adding support under the driver's calves.

Not done yet, but it looks so damn fine I thought I'd post it anyway :)

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Posted Sep 29 2011 - 12:27 PM

Damn fine piece of work. What mfg method did you use? I'm guessing you welded several formed pieces and ground the welds. However you did it, this old engineer is impressed.

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Posted Sep 29 2011 - 02:06 PM

View Postgplnut, on Sep 29 2011 - 12:27 PM, said:

Damn fine piece of work. What mfg method did you use? I'm guessing you welded several formed pieces and ground the welds. However you did it, this old engineer is impressed.

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Thanks Vince! I must confess I cheated a little bit making this. I wasn't able to set the aluminum as you'd normally would because I lack the equipment. Additionally, I can't weld 1mm aluminum with my stick welder so I needed a workaround. It's made of three aluminum pieces fused together using fiberglass underneath  :P


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Posted Oct 27 2011 - 04:19 PM

Update!

Today, I finished the seat! What a milestone  :thumbup:
The seat's all done now, secured to the frame and I even managed to get the first coat of paint onto it.
It came out better than I could have hoped. Sometimes, I amaze even myself  :lol:

Also shown is the finished lateral support bracket, still needs to be fastened though.
I also created and installed a little drain in the bottom of the tub, see the previous post for a shot of the real thing.

It's been a good week  :)


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