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#1 Ramoats

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Posted Apr 07 2019 - 01:21 PM

51 Years ago today, Jimmy Clark, the most naturally talented and arguably greatest racing driver in history was lost at Hockenheim Germany ... my hero as a kid... as well as today...

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Posted Apr 07 2019 - 02:28 PM

View PostRamoats, on Apr 07 2019 - 01:21 PM, said:

Jimmy Clark, the most naturally talented and arguably greatest racing driver in history

Totally agree with you. Was, and still is, a great lost.

#3 Pete Gaimari

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Posted Apr 07 2019 - 02:35 PM

That makes three of us.

RIP Jimmy

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Posted Apr 07 2019 - 03:15 PM

I was there when it happened, a very sad day!
I live 10 min away and visit this memorial at least once a week as it is on my regular bicycle tour .

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Posted Apr 07 2019 - 04:43 PM

I'm always deeply touched by his amazing personality, and about his driving style... well... It seems not only absolutely unique, but with the most fabulous class...
It must have been a very very sad day...

I was too young, so when I read Cookie, it impressed me...

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Posted Apr 07 2019 - 06:14 PM

I was contemplating on a visit, this weekend, to Duns as a memorial. But life got in the way.

RIP: Jimmy

@ Cookie... I've seen a YT video directing you, even though it's overgrown and takes a bit of finding, to the actual accident site. Have you ever ventured that way at all Cookie, on your travels around Hockenheim 🤔

https://youtu.be/Z38D1Zm1cMY

TP: 🏁

Edited by twinpotter, Apr 07 2019 - 06:16 PM.


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Posted Apr 07 2019 - 08:06 PM

the article written shortly after Jim Clark's death was from a French magazine and was translated by a co-worker that knew a "little" French.
if someone would like to correct and resubmit, i'd love to see it!

feel free to share - i wish i could say what magazine it came from, but this was a long time ago, and back then i would buy as many F1 publications as i could get my hands on.
often i'd buy them just to get photo's of F1 cars/drivers ~

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Posted Apr 08 2019 - 08:33 AM

The old memorial was at the Hardtbachdamm were we often watched F1 races.
But it was not where the accident had happened, this was ~ before the chicane where the road moves more to the right.
The memorial was put to a place were visitors could visit it.
The place where it realy happened was allways off limits! There was a big fence so you could not enter the triangle aera from the bicycle road to the chicane.

Look at the utube video:
From the pics of the wreck 2:08-2:18 you see a FormulaV passing on the road, wich is a good prove that it must have been before the open aera at 2:55,
at the Hardtbachdamm there were never trees.

My pic shows the

yellow - my bicycle tour
red - accident
blue - old track 1930!

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Edited by Cookie, Apr 08 2019 - 08:55 AM.


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Posted Apr 08 2019 - 10:05 AM

Thanks for the info Cookie. Very interesting.

From looking at my YT video I provided, and the previous info that I'd picked up before on the incident and the accident spot, I couldn't understand the location that the YT video maker and visitor had stated.

Thanks once again 👍

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Posted Apr 08 2019 - 01:12 PM

Thanks for the video Cookie, and TP

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Posted Apr 08 2019 - 02:33 PM

https://www.youtube....h?v=bv8pnzV9PLI

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Posted Apr 08 2019 - 05:26 PM

One of the reasons I was so angry when they destroyed the old Hockeheimring was because Clark's memorial is just abandoned out there.

I was never lucky enough to see Jim race (born in '71) but once I started delving into racing history shortly after I became a fan ('87 was when I went from "mildly interested" to "You should probably get therapy for this addiction") and reading about him... Greatest who ever lived. I always have a problem with Senna, Schumacher etc... Being ranked alongside Clark. Clark would never have driven a teammate off the track or into a wall.

For me Clark represents the racing ideal. A gentleman and a sportsman. A man with integrity and class.

Rest in peace Jim.

I may have to have a memorial race weekend in some sims where I have cars he drove. (Project Cars 2, iRacing, GT Legends, GPL obviously...)

Jim never raced the Targa Florio, did he?

Edited by Spadowski, Apr 08 2019 - 05:28 PM.


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Posted Apr 08 2019 - 09:05 PM


I'll add a post I have posted recently on Reddit for the anniversary:


In a 12 year driving career (ages 20-32), with F1 for 8 of those (1960-1968):
  • 1960 Le Mans - 3rd
  • 1960 British F3 - 1st
  • 1962 F1 - 2nd
  • 1963 Indy 500 - 2nd
  • 1963 F1 - 1st
  • 1964 F1 - 3rd
  • 1964 BTCC - 1st
  • 1965 Tasman - 1st
  • 1965 Indy 500 - 1st
  • 1965 French F2 - 1st
  • 1965 F1 - 1st
  • 1966 Tasman - 3rd
  • 1966 Indy 500 - 2nd
  • 1967 Tasman - 1st
  • 1967 F1 - 3rd
  • 1968 Tasman - 1st

1968 would have been F1 title number 3 and after that who knows.. a title fight with Stewart in 1969? Rindt's car in 1970??


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Posted Apr 09 2019 - 12:30 PM

View PostBo Bruce, on Apr 07 2019 - 08:06 PM, said:

the article written shortly after Jim Clark's death was from a French magazine and was translated by a co-worker that knew a "little" French.
if someone would like to correct and resubmit, i'd love to see it!

feel free to share - i wish i could say what magazine it came from, but this was a long time ago, and back then i would buy as many F1 publications as i could get my hands on.
often i'd buy them just to get photo's of F1 cars/drivers ~


Bruce,

say to your Co-worker that he is rather good at decifering french


From the May 1968 issue of Virage Auto, a french motor racing monthly mag edited between 1966 to 1973.

In my opinion, and taking into account my reading ability in english, the translation is good enough

"There are no more racing gods left" was the title.
  Bruce, and this mag was interesting for pics, mainly those from a photographer Michel Delombaerde.Delombaerde didn't publish his bw shots in any printed support other than Virage Auto, afaik.

   Bandini at Monaco is one of his work

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Posted Apr 09 2019 - 02:01 PM

thank you Michael - that is good to know, i've had that article since it was first published  ~
it is interesting how much more descriptive French can be!  the interplay of words was enlightening  :)

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Posted Apr 09 2019 - 02:08 PM

View PostBo Bruce, on Apr 09 2019 - 02:01 PM, said:

thank you Michael - that is good to know, i've had that article since it was first published  ~
it is interesting how much more descriptive French can be!  the interplay of words was enlightening  :)

Jean Thieffry , the writer was a specialist in International Business Law , its main financial ressources, and issued his mag Virage Auto on self financed funds,and  he was writing in a fairly well-prepared French language

Many years after the end of the mag, I attended his program of international business laws conferences in the business school I was .At that time, I didn't know his Virage Auto passtime, and never had the opportunity to exchange on motor racing topics.

Edited by M Needforspeed, Apr 09 2019 - 03:16 PM.


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Posted Apr 09 2019 - 03:09 PM

Bruce,

the pic that came with the mag sad editorial from Thieffry

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Posted Apr 10 2019 - 09:33 AM

i remember this photo!




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