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#41 shirov

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Posted Oct 23 2010 - 02:17 AM

Beautiful track, thanks :thumbup:

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Posted Oct 25 2010 - 06:25 AM

What a beautiful track! If this is a beta, I can't wait to try the finished version.

I drove the old Melbourne Loop back in the eighties, very evocative.

Keep up the good work.

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Posted Oct 25 2010 - 11:07 AM

View Postmdw1961, on Oct 25 2010 - 06:25 AM, said:

What a beautiful track! If this is a beta, I can't wait to try the finished version.

I drove the old Melbourne Loop back in the eighties, very evocative.

Keep up the good work.

Me too. They used to use the field with the Loop in it as a campsite for specatators back in the 70's/80's. When we used to go down to watch the International bike races everybody used to hurtle round the Loop on their road bikes. They put some big boulders across the track at the top of the hill on each side but there was still enough clear tarmac left to run down one side, get your knee down round the hairpin and then run back up the other side. Then with a bit of grass tracking you could do it all again, and again, and again!!!!

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Posted Nov 02 2010 - 10:29 AM

The old Donington seems so different compared to nowadays track. It´s like from some fairytale or something  :P

Historical education and entertainment in the same package, looking forward to the final release!

Thanks for all your efforts so far!  :thumbup:

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Posted Nov 06 2010 - 06:45 AM

Just had to try and find some time. Great work and thanks so much for your work Luna! This is a great beta. Lovely done with the sun shining and how you have done the forest!

Beautiful!

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Posted Nov 07 2010 - 05:49 AM

:newtrk: Absolutely stunning atmosphere you've created! :clap:   Nice flow, very natural look and feel, a must have for every GPL'er!  :thumbup:

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Posted Nov 10 2010 - 04:45 PM

What a track!  :hat-tip:

With everything else going on, I finally got a chance to go around.  What a drive!  I like blasting thru the tree's, with the sun rays       shining down, and then wow!  :yeah:  your in the open.

Thanks a bunch   :clap2:

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Posted Nov 13 2010 - 04:45 AM

Very nice! I remember farting around an early alpha version a few years ago, so this truly is a big step up in quality :D

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Posted Nov 13 2010 - 09:20 AM

Fart Drive, now there's a new concept. Only in Norway, I guess!  :P

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Posted Nov 15 2010 - 02:31 PM

View PostMECH, on Oct 02 2010 - 12:37 PM, said:

Ha Bob beat me to it  :lol:   :kewlpics:

Some more to show the great atmosphere this track has  :artist:

Very nice job Richard  :thumbup:  :hat-tip:

Even though i have little time to drive it the laps i did give me much pleasure.
Brings back the days of spirit of speed  :yinyang: Pity that one never delivered it's promise (vids where cool though)
Maybe GPL can  ;)



Pls. Where can I download this mod? :confused:  :shock:

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Posted Nov 15 2010 - 03:55 PM

View Postdepallier, on Nov 15 2010 - 02:31 PM, said:

Pls. Where can I download this mod? :confused:  :shock:
It's not a mod, Donington 1937 is just a single track. Look at the top of the first post in this thread for a link.

Alternatively, all the tracks which get released here on SRMZ are also available from the GPL Track Database HERE.  :wave:

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Posted Nov 15 2010 - 03:56 PM

View Postdepallier, on Nov 15 2010 - 02:31 PM, said:

Pls. Where can I download this mod? :confused:  :shock:
If you are talking about Spirit of Speed it is not a mod, it was a game, late 90's maybe :idunno:  It is really not worth installing IMO, I deleted it after 2 of 3 sessions with it, the concept was nice but the gameplay was useless. Maybe you can find it at an abandonware site and make up your own mind.

If you are asking about the track, there is a download link on the first post of this thread. :wave:

#53 MECH

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Posted Nov 15 2010 - 04:27 PM

View PostSaiph, on Nov 15 2010 - 03:55 PM, said:

View Postdepallier, on Nov 15 2010 - 02:31 PM, said:

Pls. Where can I download this mod? :confused:  :shock:
It's not a mod, Donington 1937 is just a single track. Look at the top of the first post in this thread for a link.

Alternatively, all the tracks which get released here on SRMZ are also available from the GPL Track Database HERE.  :wave:

Not quite,

The pictures of the cars are indeed from a wip mod: the 37mod ;)

The pictures of the track are from Luna's  :artist:  Donington track which rather nicely fit's the mod  :yinyang:

Edited by MECH, May 06 2011 - 04:40 AM.


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Posted Nov 16 2010 - 03:11 AM

magnificent track, although we do not have wehicle to drive around it

it just feels so strange driving 1967 car in the 1937 surroundings

It is so real, incredible, incredibe sense of detail -particuary in the crowd where they are all dressed in 1937 fashion and there are no women -and that is historrically 100% correct ,because women didnt attend races in those times

great and accurate work, well done!

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Posted Nov 16 2010 - 05:09 AM

View Postdario, on Nov 16 2010 - 03:11 AM, said:

... and there are no women -and that is historrically 100% correct ,because women didnt attend races in those times
There are women in the crowd, because women did attend races in those times. Women raced in those times too, e.g: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kay_Petre

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it just feels so strange driving 1967 car in the 1937 surroundings
Perhaps Royale and Co. might be persuaded to release an alpha/beta car or two...?  :unsure:

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Posted Nov 16 2010 - 05:28 PM

View PostLuna, on Nov 16 2010 - 05:09 AM, said:

View Postdario, on Nov 16 2010 - 03:11 AM, said:

... and there are no women -and that is historrically 100% correct ,because women didnt attend races in those times
There are women in the crowd, because women did attend races in those times. Women raced in those times too, e.g: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kay_Petre

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it just feels so strange driving 1967 car in the 1937 surroundings
Perhaps Royale and Co. might be persuaded to release an alpha/beta car or two...?  :unsure:


MECH & I will be in touch  :hat-tip: Bob

Edited by Royal, Nov 16 2010 - 05:29 PM.


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Posted Nov 17 2010 - 11:56 AM

Wonderfull atmosphere and attractive graphics with really nice colours and detail, but don’t go in the wide sports car mod for your first impression as I did, the 65 was much more appropriate for me. As mentioned above, part of the track is a deja vue to the Donington of the “Spirit of Speed” game, which failed due to the absence of a plausible physics model. It was a waste of my time and Micropose’s investment.

Years ago I read “Hitler's Grands Prix in England: Donington 1937 and 1938”, which basically  describes the incompatible meeting between the British gentleman racer in his ERA or Maserati 6CM voiturette and the full blown German GP teams as a symbol of the mounting political tensions in Europe. On the historic grid, von Brauchitsch’s  Mercedes W125 with 600hp for 750kg took pole with 2:10.4 and Raymond Mays qualified the best ERA with 240hp for 915kg at 8th place 16 sec. slower! A major concern for the Germans in 1937 was the jump over the hill coming down to the hairpin and back up to the start. Both Mercedes and Auto Union would loose road contact completely at their speed and that detail is fully present in this track.

Actually I wonder, if a GPL37 mod would be popular and representative of the original conditions: Carraciola, the 1937 “world champion”, in his memoirs describes driving the W125 race car, as driving a road car on ice and the Auto Union type C was notoriously difficult. These cars suffered wheel spin at 150 mph! The 1.5litre voiturette class on the other hand looks far more drivable. I have attended VSCC race meetings with Maseratis, Rileys and most of the original ERAs. That looked like non-aleins having lots of compatible fun. If the 37 mod wants to include a Mercedes über-voiturette, the W165 Tripoli car would do nicely :-).

I would love to try this and the other mods in the pipeline mentioned above, but unfortunately the “be carefull what you wish for…” cliché is at work here. With a semingly constant number of sim-racers, the more mods, the fewer racers per class. Logically, the collective creative efforts should be focused on a single project, which could attract sim racers from outside the GPL crowd.  I think Papyrus originally made a wise choice, that 1967 was a very good F1 year, with a good range of competive cars. Personally I think 1955 has similar qualities for the 2.5litre front engine cars and I know of no other sims of that period.

Edited by oneal, Nov 17 2010 - 11:59 AM.


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Posted Nov 17 2010 - 01:08 PM

View Postoneal, on Nov 17 2010 - 11:56 AM, said:

Wonderfull atmosphere and attractive graphics with really nice colours and detail, but don’t go in the wide sports car mod for your first impression as I did, the 65 was much more appropriate for me. As mentioned above, part of the track is a deja vue to the Donington of the “Spirit of Speed” game, which failed due to the absence of a plausible physics model. It was a waste of my time and Micropose’s investment.

Years ago I read “Hitler's Grands Prix in England: Donington 1937 and 1938”, which basically  describes the incompatible meeting between the British gentleman racer in his ERA or Maserati 6CM voiturette and the full blown German GP teams as a symbol of the mounting political tensions in Europe. On the historic grid, von Brauchitsch’s  Mercedes W125 with 600hp for 750kg took pole with 2:10.4 and Raymond Mays qualified the best ERA with 240hp for 915kg at 8th place 16 sec. slower! A major concern for the Germans in 1937 was the jump over the hill coming down to the hairpin and back up to the start. Both Mercedes and Auto Union would loose road contact completely at their speed and that detail is fully present in this track.

Actually I wonder, if a GPL37 mod would be popular and representative of the original conditions: Carraciola, the 1937 “world champion”, in his memoirs describes driving the W125 race car, as driving a road car on ice and the Auto Union type C was notoriously difficult. These cars suffered wheel spin at 150 mph! The 1.5litre voiturette class on the other hand looks far more drivable. I have attended VSCC race meetings with Maseratis, Rileys and most of the original ERAs. That looked like non-aleins having lots of compatible fun. If the 37 mod wants to include a Mercedes über-voiturette, the W165 Tripoli car would do nicely :-).

I would love to try this and the other mods in the pipeline mentioned above, but unfortunately the “be carefull what you wish for…” cliché is at work here. With a semingly constant number of sim-racers, the more mods, the fewer racers per class. Logically, the collective creative efforts should be focused on a single project, which could attract sim racers from outside the GPL crowd.  I think Papyrus originally made a wise choice, that 1967 was a very good F1 year, with a good range of competive cars. Personally I think 1955 has similar qualities for the 2.5litre front engine cars and I know of no other sims of that period.
The ERA was a 1.5litre voiturette (F2) car with a 1500cc engine hence it was that slow.

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Posted Nov 28 2010 - 09:16 AM

View PostMECH, on Nov 15 2010 - 04:27 PM, said:

View PostSaiph, on Nov 15 2010 - 03:55 PM, said:

View Postdepallier, on Nov 15 2010 - 02:31 PM, said:

Pls. Where can I download this mod? :confused:  :shock:
It's not a mod, Donington 1937 is just a single track. Look at the top of the first post in this thread for a link.

Alternatively, all the tracks which get released here on SRMZ are also available from the GPL Track Database HERE.  :wave:

Not quite,

The pictures of the cars are indeed from a wip mod: the 37mod ;)

The pictures of the track are from Luna's  :artist:  Donington track which rather nicely fit's the mod  :yinyang:

Nice pictures. Is there some kind of demo of this mod somewhere avaiable?
or is just not possible due too much testing and make progress?

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Posted Nov 28 2010 - 09:50 AM

View PostGrandPrixYannick, on Nov 28 2010 - 09:16 AM, said:

View PostMECH, on Nov 15 2010 - 04:27 PM, said:

View PostSaiph, on Nov 15 2010 - 03:55 PM, said:

View Postdepallier, on Nov 15 2010 - 02:31 PM, said:

Pls. Where can I download this mod? :confused:  :shock:
It's not a mod, Donington 1937 is just a single track. Look at the top of the first post in this thread for a link.

Alternatively, all the tracks which get released here on SRMZ are also available from the GPL Track Database HERE.  :wave:

Not quite,

The pictures of the cars are indeed from a wip mod: the 37mod ;)

The pictures of the track are from Luna's  :artist:  Donington track which rather nicely fit's the mod  :yinyang:

Nice pictures. Is there some kind of demo of this mod somewhere avaiable?
or is just not possible due too much testing and make progress?

Mods aren't released as demo's because the physics/graphics are still undergoing testing.
Releasing a mod as a demo with unfinished physics/graphics will cause all kinds of trouble for various reasons.
We'ld be busier solving those problems first then finalizing the mod ;)

While the images might look nice already there's still lot's of area's where we still need to work on.
I don't think a demo mod where several cars have mirrors, needles, etc.. missing and fps is still low would be much appreciated.

Edited by MECH, Nov 28 2010 - 09:51 AM.





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