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#181 mcmirande

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Posted Dec 20 2016 - 08:26 PM

Was there some car with discs in 1955?

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Posted Dec 20 2016 - 08:53 PM

Vanwall VW55 - The car had Goodyear ventilated disk brakes all around which gave it the best brakes in Formula 1.

Connaught Type B - Dunlop magnesium alloy wheels and solid disk brakes were standard (however a present day photo shows Girling disk brake calipers) which gave the Connaught the best brakes in F1 behind the Vanwall.

Maserati 250F - Interestingly, the 1955 British privateer 250Fs were often more advanced than the factory cars.  For example, Moss' 1955 250F was modified with lighter Dunlop magnesium alloy wheels and solid disk brakes; two features that the works cars didn't have for several more years.

~~~~> Info compiled by Lee Bowden

Edited by gliebzeit, Dec 20 2016 - 09:00 PM.


#183 davef

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Posted Dec 20 2016 - 09:57 PM

View PostPete Gaimari, on Dec 20 2016 - 07:12 PM, said:

View Postdavef, on Dec 18 2016 - 09:14 AM, said:

Greg & Bob's descriptions here are exactly what I discovered in Beta testing at GPLR. These techniques described become track specific and in a sense, lap specific depending on the condition of the brakes. This adds greatly to the experience of now driving in GPL. As with the original 67 and every other Mod in GPL, there are those cars which are easier to drive then others. This applies with the brake systems used in 1955 as well, drum vs disc. It's a whole new way of enjoying this great sim. :)

Which car has the best brakes?

Pete,

I started driving the Mod with the Vanwall and later moved on to the W196 Openwheeler & the Maser 250F.
Really enjoy the Lancia D50 ATM.

Edited by davef, Dec 20 2016 - 10:00 PM.


#184 mcmirande

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Posted Dec 20 2016 - 10:11 PM

Thanks for the info about brakes!

I wanna drive them noooooow!!!!

Wait... ommmmm ommmmm... I'm calmed down now. I can wait another... day... :)

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Posted Dec 21 2016 - 03:00 AM

View PostBrett77, on Dec 18 2016 - 05:01 AM, said:

I've wanted to ask for some time.. why 1955?

I think I can answer this.

"I think 1955 really was the best year to pick. The mod had to include the Mercedes W196, so that left only 1954 and 1955.  And the Lancia D50 was basically a no show until the last race of 1954. So that left 1955." - Lee Bowden

Background info is that I think someone made a W196 like ten years ago, but the current mod is a total revamp in all aspects.

"The 1955 season had four of the best Formula 1 cars of all time.  These included the Mercedes W196 which dominated all racing in 1954 and 1955 and gave Fangio two Driver Championships, the Lancia D50 which Ferrari would adopt as its own for the 1956 season and give Fangio another championship, and the Maserati 250F which certainly was the prettiest front engined car ever built.  Fangio won his fifth and final championship with this car in 1957.  Finally, the Vanwall won the first Constructors Championship in 1958.

Three of the cars would have won the Constructors Championship had it been awarded before 1958.  These were the Mercedes W196 in 1954 and 1955, the Lancia Ferrari D50A in 1956, and the Maserati 250F in 1957.  As mentioned, the much improved Vanwall won the inaugural Constructors Championship in 1958." - Lee Bowden

That's quite a perspective. Disc brakes vs. drum brakes (essential for doing any older mods). Four title winning cars.. plus, the '55 Le Mans disaster forever changed the face of F1 and Grand Prix racing.

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Posted Dec 21 2016 - 05:44 AM

View PostIestyn16, on Dec 21 2016 - 03:00 AM, said:

View PostBrett77, on Dec 18 2016 - 05:01 AM, said:

I've wanted to ask for some time.. why 1955?

I think I can answer this.

~ snippet ~

Background info is that I think someone made a W196 like ten years ago, but the current mod is a total revamp in all aspects.

~ snippet ~

Not a revamp, that implies renovating an available model ;)
The W196 open wheeler and streamliner are complete new models as well as the earlier present ferrari 555.

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Posted Dec 21 2016 - 12:23 PM

View PostPete Gaimari, on Dec 20 2016 - 07:12 PM, said:

Which car has the best brakes?

The cars of the 1969 mod. :yikesss:

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Posted Dec 21 2016 - 04:00 PM

View Postdavef, on Dec 20 2016 - 09:57 PM, said:

View PostPete Gaimari, on Dec 20 2016 - 07:12 PM, said:

View Postdavef, on Dec 18 2016 - 09:14 AM, said:

Greg & Bob's descriptions here are exactly what I discovered in Beta testing at GPLR. These techniques described become track specific and in a sense, lap specific depending on the condition of the brakes. This adds greatly to the experience of now driving in GPL. As with the original 67 and every other Mod in GPL, there are those cars which are easier to drive then others. This applies with the brake systems used in 1955 as well, drum vs disc. It's a whole new way of enjoying this great sim. :)

Which car has the best brakes?

Pete,

I started driving the Mod with the Vanwall and later moved on to the W196 Openwheeler & the Maser 250F.
Really enjoy the Lancia D50 ATM.

Does that mean the D50 has the best brakes?

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Posted Dec 21 2016 - 04:36 PM

Pete,

In regards to that, see what Greg had posted: :)

Vanwall VW55 - The car had Goodyear ventilated disk brakes all around which gave it the best brakes in Formula 1.

Connaught Type B -
Dunlop magnesium alloy wheels and solid disk brakes were standard (however a present day photo shows Girling disk brake calipers) which gave the Connaught the best brakes in F1 behind the Vanwall.

Edited by davef, Dec 21 2016 - 04:37 PM.


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Posted Dec 21 2016 - 05:18 PM

Thanks for the replies on why '55.

Super congratulations to the team... must seem like climbing Everest.

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Posted Dec 21 2016 - 06:30 PM

So differing brake modelling for all cars or just depending on type of system?

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Posted Dec 21 2016 - 06:32 PM

Yes, different for all '55 cars.... but very similar.  :)

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Posted Dec 21 2016 - 07:58 PM

Brake fade doesn't scare me..........................well, maybe a little.

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Posted Dec 22 2016 - 04:04 AM

View PostPete Gaimari, on Dec 21 2016 - 07:58 PM, said:

Brake fade doesn't scare me..........................well, maybe a little.

but then sliding will make you smile again.

Edited by Royale, Dec 22 2016 - 04:05 AM.


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Posted Dec 22 2016 - 07:22 AM

True.

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Posted Mar 22 2017 - 09:09 AM

View PostRoyale, on Dec 17 2016 - 08:40 AM, said:

Multiple Choice:

A- when it's ready
B- when it's ready
C- when it's ready
D- when it's frackin' ready
E- All of the above

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So you mean we are still not ready? ;) :D :P

:saythat: :releasedate:    :banghead2: :mad2: :sofa:   :scared:



We are on the finish straight.... but there are still things that have to be worked on...

To give you an idea what has to be done to get it final:
- final graphics errors needs to be fixed, eg.: steering wheels of cars in the mirrors have a texture error -> I guess you don`t want that in a final mod :nerd:
- AI files need to be created
- the mod needs to be put into an installer, that also needs to be tested
- a mod homepage is being built (almost finished)
- plus a lot more the tech guys know way better than I do... :)

Keep in mind the team is highly skilled, but small.
And most of the team members are doing multible jobs, working on the mod AND on track projects and other mod realted projects.

The good thing is, the longer it takes to actually finish the mod, the more tracks with 50s graphics updates you MIGHT get. ;)


And btw we all have a real life. Some even have to go to work, have a family and friends, a social life and even other interests than G_P_L. ;) :D


:wave:

Edited by Stefan Roess, Mar 22 2017 - 09:13 AM.


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Posted Mar 22 2017 - 10:13 AM

Thanks for the update Stefan. Really looking forward to this mod. Recently I've been given books about racing from this era, so have been reading all about this time.

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Posted Mar 24 2017 - 01:47 PM

Many Thanks Stefan :thumbup:




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