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#16 Pablo_Fernandez

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Posted Jan 05 2018 - 06:57 AM

View PostStefan Roess, on Jan 04 2018 - 04:24 AM, said:

Nice idea, we just need someone who will organize it. :)
Hehe!. That is the great question.......

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Posted Jan 05 2018 - 07:15 AM

Any patches allowed? Pitstop/Refuel? Weather for Mosport?

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Posted Jan 05 2018 - 08:08 AM

I envision to keep it as close as original, but with the modern graphics/sounds updates, and GEM. But no 60fps patch or other pitstop/weather patches. Just my opinion. To keep it as close how it was when released.

To me the server 1 suggestion by Jonny O appeals the most to me. 7 races at original tracks, all 7 cars have to be used. 45-60 minute races, historic pts counting.

GPLRACER already has a Master of Mods series in the summerbreak, for those interested to run all mods. First we need a little group of admins/mods who are willing to organize it.

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Posted Jan 05 2018 - 08:41 AM

Here is some off my incoherent rambling as a starting point how I'd run an season like this.

I do like the 7 chassis 7 tracks idea. Problem is we got 11 tracks and 7 chassis. So either we eliminate 4 tracks or we up the car count. I prefer the later, since we got bunch of mods to choose from and a good driver should be able to conduct a variety of cars in my opinion.
Next point is over how much time we want to spread this, full year, half,...
Final point regarding tracks, I highly suggest running the newer Spa over the Papy version.

Once we got the schedule, we need to look at how to run a single race and how and what to score.

"Worst case scenario" we have too many drivers to fit on a single server. Either we do the GPLRACER thing and make everyone submit times ahead of the race or hold a 15min Prequal session to sort them into somewhat levelized servers. Preferably splitting the field down the middle so 24 drivers 12 on each server. The other question is how does one combine results of two separate races (I have an idea about that but I need to run some numbers first).

We are going to need servers, one is necessary, two would be better. Also a time that works for most or we stagger the races.

As for the race itself:
Distance;majority seems to say half GP, I say half GP because personally I prefer them distance based rather than timed. So historic distance *1/2.
I'd say no shift-r or oAo D2 Shift-R regs, ie recover to pits under own power and reset only there.
Pitstop patch is fine by my rekon, it's only boon if there is no or limited Shift-R allowed.

Not sure about contingencies as for mass discos and other dancing plague like events. It's either rerun or half points maybe both depending on distance covered pre event.

How to score, the classic 9-6-4-3-2-1 +1 for fastest lap sounds good to me,
Individual driver championship  is the best option imo. Nation Cup can be secondary though I fear there will be some disparity in numbers so I'd advise against it. Also I'd like this to be open to all not just the top drivers. The best. driver float to the top naturally anyway.

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Posted Jan 05 2018 - 09:16 AM

View Postfajanko, on Jan 05 2018 - 07:15 AM, said:

Weather for Mosport?

we have Mosport Rain .



I do not agree to a system 9 6 4 3 2 1 if you have 35 registered most will finish with 0 and therefore they will not register

So do prequalification (best lap on 3 tracks?) And distribution on several servers
divisions 1, 2 ... etc. mod 67
or div 1 mod 67, div 2 mod F2 ...(or mod 65)

Edited by ed76, Jan 05 2018 - 09:31 AM.


#21 Stefan Roess

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Posted Jan 05 2018 - 10:15 AM

View PostPablo_Fernandez, on Jan 05 2018 - 06:57 AM, said:

View PostStefan Roess, on Jan 04 2018 - 04:24 AM, said:

Nice idea, we just need someone who will organize it. :)
Hehe!. That is the great question.......

And it won`t be me. Sorry guys.

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Posted Jan 05 2018 - 01:38 PM

How many countries would race and how many drivers by country?

I think if you get teams of 5 drivers by country (ideally 6), and there are something like 18 countries/regions (?), we could race 6 races in each track, randomizing which team race with which on every track, and simply summing up points at the end.

With gpl-weekly as a common platform, the organization shouldn't be that difficult

Marcos

Edited by mcmirande, Jan 05 2018 - 01:38 PM.


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Posted Jan 05 2018 - 01:54 PM

Well... I was too optimistic with 18 teams.

Let me think...
France, USA, Germany, Brasil, UK, Argentina, and Italy I think could have 5 or 6 fast drivers

Don't know if Netherlands+Belgium or Spain+Portugal... or Canada. Hungary, Bulgary, Finland, Australia?...

Maybe 9 teams is more realistic...

Edited by mcmirande, Jan 05 2018 - 01:54 PM.


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Posted Jan 05 2018 - 03:19 PM

View Postmcmirande, on Jan 05 2018 - 01:54 PM, said:

Well... I was too optimistic with 18 teams.

Let me think...
France, USA, Germany, Brasil, UK, Argentina, and Italy I think could have 5 or 6 fast drivers

Don't know if Netherlands+Belgium or Spain+Portugal... or Canada. Hungary, Bulgary, Finland, Australia?...

Maybe 9 teams is more realistic...

8 teams , each 4 drivers* ..... 2 servers   ( * replacement is allowed)

but it will be difficult already, an attempt a few years ago failed:
USA refusal of the "cup" system
Australia not interested
Germany and Finland, refusal to drive in 36 fps

Edited by ed76, Jan 05 2018 - 03:23 PM.


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Posted Jan 05 2018 - 03:26 PM

View Posted76, on Jan 05 2018 - 03:19 PM, said:

View Postmcmirande, on Jan 05 2018 - 01:54 PM, said:

Well... I was too optimistic with 18 teams.

Let me think...
France, USA, Germany, Brasil, UK, Argentina, and Italy I think could have 5 or 6 fast drivers

Don't know if Netherlands+Belgium or Spain+Portugal... or Canada. Hungary, Bulgary, Finland, Australia?...

Maybe 9 teams is more realistic...

8 teams , each 4 drivers* ..... 2 servers   ( * replacement is allowed)

Yes. It sounds even more realistic

But maybe some large communities could race with teams a and b. I'm thinking in France, USA or even Argentina.

Maybe 12 teams is not impossible, including one or two "rest of the world".

We could start with a list of possible drivers/nationalities and planning some racing scheme in function of that

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Posted Jan 05 2018 - 03:59 PM

"...but it will be difficult already, an attempt a few years ago failed:
USA refusal of the "cup" system
Australia not interested
Germany and Finland, refusal to drive in 36 fps"

mmm... Yes, I remember that.

I think the "cup" system could be replaced with a kind of "league" one, as mentioned a couple of post before.
And the 36 vs 60 fps question is something that could be voted too.

Edited by mcmirande, Jan 05 2018 - 03:59 PM.


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Posted Jan 05 2018 - 04:21 PM

Oh boy, I don't think we will ever agree on the format :P

I'm more on JonnyO and Michi's side, apart from mods. Keeping things as simple as possible. Nations cup could simply be added results of individuals, like the best 2 per race. But in the first place I rather meant a competitive driver's championship with original 67s.

7 1-hour (half GPL) Pro races (Ring, Monaco and Monza mandatory I'd say, for historic reasons) using all 7 cars at own choice per race. 67s, 36fps. Dates etc. are of later worry.

Thanks all for input and thoughts :)

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Posted Jan 05 2018 - 05:25 PM

I agree whit the idea, a world championship any 10 years it's to much time, but we can start again to do, that event again,
I'm agree  totaly, and let me search leagues, and drivers for all american drivers ( aliens and almost aliens ) :-) jonnie, marcos let's gooo

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Posted Jan 05 2018 - 05:39 PM

It would be the Grand Prix Legends 2018 World Championship, which need not replicate any other.
The first race could be the 1998 birthday-publication date, (not sure when...sometime in September?).
That would offer time to organize properly and time to schedule/prepare?

Could feature global open to all regional time-zone qualifiers with heat race format?



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Posted Jan 05 2018 - 07:26 PM

If you want a simple system:

- Individual races
- pre-qualification server 24 hours a day during the week preceding the race, the best 19 times are qualified.
- points: 9,6,4,3,2,1
- a driver can not reuse a car with which he has already participated in a race.




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