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#1 scotty

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Posted Feb 12 2005 - 01:52 AM

Our local track here, besides PIR....

Firebird Raceway.

At GPL++, it shows someone "was" working on it, but it appears it's been stopped.

Any track Guru's out there?  :blink:  :cap:

1.6 mile course

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Posted Feb 12 2005 - 07:52 PM

Do you have any other info-pics-maps.... to work on it?

ok, i looked out a little and this may be better...

www.firebirdraceway.com

it seems a place where you can have a lot of fun! :P
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Edited by Ginetto, Feb 13 2005 - 06:19 AM.


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Posted Feb 13 2005 - 05:46 AM

Looks like fun :)

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Posted Feb 13 2005 - 07:46 AM

Is it 18 Holes or more?  :?:  :lol:

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Posted Feb 13 2005 - 10:36 AM

Hi Ginetto!

Fantastic photos!  :thumbup:

Firebird opened in the early/mid 80's.
The red outline is actually the track we, (the SCCA & ASRA/NASA) use for our events. As you can see, there's a slight variation to the track configuration that we can use. (we normally use the straight section)
You can see the drag strip and the 1/4 mile shutdown line. The road course uses another 1/4 length of straight, out into the desert.

In the early 90's, Bob Bondurant moved his entire facility to Firebird, and the guy has alot of clout out there. Before he moved there, Firebird was just the track, that I've outlined. Now, as you can see from your excellent aerial photo, Bondurant has added several track configurations to the entire facility.

I've met and spoken to Bondurant on several occasions, and all i can say is this.....Bob Bondurant's biggest fan is Bob Bondurant.  :hmm:

Friday night. is open drag races. (anybody can bring their cars to drag race. Even family cars). So when we run on Saturday mornings, the entry onto the main staright is usually awfully slippery.

Firebird is my favorite track, compared to PIR (Oval and road course), Willow Springs, Vegas, Gratten, IRP, or Mid Ohio. (The last three are where I ran a Formula Vee back East). Maybe it's because I have a helluva lot more track time at firebird.

One major proble at Firebird though, is lack of shade. The beginning of the season, usually in September, the temperature can still be well above 100 degrees. Combine that with sitting in a cramped cockpit, wearing a triple layer fire suit, belacalava, helmet, gloves.........The Emergency crews are good at dealing with heat related emergencies.  :lol:

Mech:
I wouldn't be surprised if they built one out there..... :lol:  :cap:

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Posted Feb 13 2005 - 11:04 AM

So you do race there!
Good, I think I can build it.
You will just have to try it while i'm building and tell me if is coming right or I have to modify it.
It will be pretty easy the part of the layout.
"Two" things before to start;
one- Is it totally flat or there is some altitude?
two- What about the cambers at every single turn?
three- do you prefer I do the layout with the turn or the one with the straight? or both? :P
Ciao

oppps, another thing...
Where is the start finish line? :rolleyes:

PS what's on the other side of the lake? another track?

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Edited by Ginetto, Feb 13 2005 - 11:26 AM.


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Posted Feb 13 2005 - 12:06 PM

Ginetto, on Feb 13 2005, 10:04 AM, said:

So you do race there!
Good, I think I can build it.
You will just have to try it while i'm building and tell me if is coming right or I have to modify it.
It will be pretty easy the part of the layout.
"Two" things before to start;
one- Is it totally flat or there is some altitude?
two- What about the cambers at every single turn?
three- do you prefer I do the layout with the turn or the one with the straight? or both? :P
Ciao

oppps, another thing...
Where is the start finish line? :rolleyes:

PS what's on the other side of the lake? another track?
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That track is used by the IRL and Champ car guys for winter testing. That's I-10 running parallel to it. So you can basically stop your car, on the side of the road, and watch those boys play around.

Re-doing the track map with Cambers and elevations for ya.

By the way Ginetto, where the hell are you getting those pictures?????

They're FANTASTIC!  :thumbup:

Edited by scotty, Feb 13 2005 - 12:08 PM.


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Posted Feb 13 2005 - 12:38 PM

I have big eyes, I can see that... :P

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Posted Feb 13 2005 - 12:49 PM

Here's what everything is out there.  :cap:

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Posted Feb 13 2005 - 12:57 PM

..it's terraserver

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Posted Feb 13 2005 - 01:02 PM

Ginetto, on Feb 13 2005, 11:57 AM, said:

..it's terraserver

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AAaaahhhh!  :thumbup:

Alright. Forgot all about that site.

You been in contact with Dangerrodant?
he had mentioned moving this to an editing forum at the Repoistory.
Haven't a clue how that'd be done..... :blink:
:unsure:  :cap:

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Posted Feb 13 2005 - 01:25 PM

Not sure if you got the elevation map I sent.

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Posted Feb 13 2005 - 01:26 PM

Not sure if you got the elevation map I sent.

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Posted Feb 13 2005 - 02:46 PM

yes, I did!
I start work on it...
questions will follow. :wave:

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Posted Feb 13 2005 - 03:42 PM

I think Keith is saying you should get a private editors forum like Belle Isle.
That way the two of you could talk about the project, chuck files at one another for testing etc.




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