15 replies to this topic

[delgs]

apparently this was posted before,
I do apologise. I must have missed it.
I have deleted the link.
You guys have a very forceful way of making your point.

Edited by delgs, May 05 2018 - 11:51 AM.

[Wozza_UK]

Just found this on YouTube. Amazing shots of Monaco.

Anyway, thought you chaps might like to see it.

https://www.youtube....h?v=sCv-dIFGcd0

Edited by Wozza_UK, May 04 2018 - 05:02 PM.

[John Woods]

Amazing.
Anyone else?

Edited by John Woods, May 04 2018 - 06:50 PM.

[JacnGille]

[gliebzeit]

WOW  WOW  WOW  !!!

It's like IMAX quality.

Thank you for finding this.  

Edited by gliebzeit, May 04 2018 - 08:18 PM.

[Pavel]

http://srmz.net/inde...showtopic=12192

[ginetto]

As Pavel said, it was already posted here  on January and some people that wowed then did it again here, we're getting old

[Royale]

Good to see that the track maker really nailed the chicane.

[gliebzeit]

WOW !!   We're getting old?   Where have I heard THAT before?  

Edited by gliebzeit, May 05 2018 - 08:11 AM.

[John Woods]

ginetto, on May 05 2018 - 03:35 AM, said:

we're getting old

Yes, well, not me dammit.

Royale, on May 05 2018 - 04:33 AM, said:

Good to see that the track maker really nailed the chicane.

Is it possible to apply a new track file to old track?
Is that what Monocane is?
Just wondering...

The Monaco that comes with the Installer is incredible btw just noticed once again.

Edited by John Woods, May 05 2018 - 06:34 PM.

[Pete Gaimari]

What an amazing video for 1962. It looks like it could have been made today. I'm not old but did I say this before? Maybe a little old. Ok, freaking old!

So, what the deal with the chicane? Was it tightened up some by 67? It shows it more open than in most videos but that was 62. Still not  Papy version open but less than Monacane.

[John Woods]

Pete...you might have seen this already.
Seems it changed some almost every year.

Chicane Evolution

Monaco vs Monocane

Edited by John Woods, May 05 2018 - 06:38 PM.

[Pete Gaimari]

John..............I've made my own imaginary chicane. I don't feel Monacane is right and neither is the Papy version.

What I do is use the Papy version, but instead of going through it flat out in 5th I gear down to 4th. I don't brake, but just get off the throttle and gear down. It's just enough to slow me down to a more reasonable speed through the chicane. I don't know how to make the AI to do the same, so I just deal with it. It can be a problem if an AI is right behind me coming out of the tunnel. Sometimes i'll let them pass me to avoid a crash.

[John Woods]

That's what I use, appreciating the challenge of the chicane flatout.
Would agree the Papy version is closer to the way it was in '62.

Notice in '67 the barrier added on the left at entry over the sidewalk?
Not there in '62.
It doesn't change the line but does obscure the view, perhaps making it appear a tighter turn?
Or one which you better know what's on the other side.

Really don't think the driving line changed that much.
Cars got faster or slower off-line cars let off later is my guess about why anyone was braking.
One announcer mentioned, "flick the wrist" to get thru the chicane.
He didn't say, "touch the brakes" or "just let off."

[marco lenarduzzi]

The quality is incredible and those beautiful shark nosed Ferraris ! Wow !!!

[maddog]

It's nice to see some high quality digitized footage.  Colours and clarity usually suffer when digitized.

I'd estimate the real Monaco chicane to be midway between Papyrus and Monacane.  Monacane overcompensated - it was made as a quick fix.

There was a "Monaco Rocks 3" under development, before Monacane arrived.  Maybe someday it'll put things right.

Edited by maddog, May 07 2018 - 06:52 PM.