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#21 Paddy the Irishman

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Posted Jan 30 2012 - 03:55 PM

Are the 'realism police' getting a bit over zealous ?  :rolleyes:

Gianfranco, you go ahead and give us what you want, don't sweat TOO hard over a plastic ring  :shock:  :D

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Posted Jan 30 2012 - 04:25 PM

View PostPaddy the Irishman, on Jan 30 2012 - 03:55 PM, said:

Are the 'realism police' getting a bit over zealous ?  :rolleyes:

Gianfranco, you go ahead and give us what you want, don't sweat TOO hard over a plastic ring  :shock:  :D

Who wants plastic anyway, the ocean is already full of it :rolleyes:

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Posted Jan 30 2012 - 04:45 PM

View PostMECH, on Jan 30 2012 - 04:25 PM, said:

View PostPaddy the Irishman, on Jan 30 2012 - 03:55 PM, said:

Are the 'realism police' getting a bit over zealous ?  :rolleyes:

Gianfranco, you go ahead and give us what you want, don't sweat TOO hard over a plastic ring  :shock:  :D

Who wants plastic anyway, the ocean is already full of it :rolleyes:
And in very tinny small pieces , i saw a documantary on tv about this problem ....; you don't believe your eyes how they treat are oceans  :shock:
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Posted Jan 30 2012 - 05:07 PM

View PostPaddy the Irishman, on Jan 30 2012 - 03:55 PM, said:

Are the 'realism police' getting a bit over zealous ?  :rolleyes:

Gianfranco, you go ahead and give us what you want, don't sweat TOO hard over a plastic ring  :shock:  :D


Like I said (if you'd read my post)...its a really minor thing...and either way, whatever Gianfranco does, I'm sure it'll be great.

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Posted Jan 31 2012 - 02:26 AM

View Postdelgs, on Jan 30 2012 - 03:51 AM, said:

Hi Gianfranco,

Thanks for the objects in mirrors for the F2 cars, I'm looking forward to it, looks very good so far. And thank you for all your other recent contributions of historically-correct helmets, driver suits etc. They're a real enhancement to the game!  :hat-tip:

Just one thing about the mirrors: the current rims look a bit too thick to my eyes, and seem to be missing the white plastic seal between the rim and the glass that this type of mirror usually had. I've never seen any "bullet" mirrors with just a thick alloy rim and no seal visible. Somewhere I've got a pair of original racing mirrors made by Alexander, dating from 1964, and they have the white plastic seal. The modern repros have it too. Two pics of a Formula 2 Bt 23 cockpit below, hopefully you can just make out the white seals between rim and glass, and the overall proportions of the rim.

Actually, I feel bad about mentioning this, ( making extra work for you, when you're already doing a brilliant job!) and its a really minor thing, but I'm sure you'd want to get the detail right, if time allows. Either way, you're doing fantastic work, and its much appreciated, thank you again! :thumbup:

I don't see white plastic seals; I see the reflection of the rim in the mirror.  The latter picture of your mirrors with the seal look nothing like the in car pics.  Just saying.
I use car in mirrors for all the mods and I'm looking forward to the 67F2 complete addon.  Keep up the good work all.

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Posted Jan 31 2012 - 08:11 AM

I have to admit that this discussion on the plastic seals made me a bit nervous giving me a bit of pressure.  :stretcher: But it was a good debate, not to criticize but to improve. So yesterday evening, rather than to make a new mirror  a re-did it the lola because there were few pixels around the exhaust  I was not happy with and I was afraid you could see it.

By the way it is flattering to see how much appreciations and now expectations you have on my small works. I am now at 7 mirrors done and 5 to go.  Sometime next week everything should be ready. :wave:

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Posted Jan 31 2012 - 08:35 AM

I am really looking forward to your objects in the mirrors update for F2! :thumbup:

And welcome to the inner circle of GPL! ;) :)

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Posted Feb 05 2012 - 12:51 AM

View PostG.Spinning, on Jan 31 2012 - 08:11 AM, said:

I have to admit that this discussion on the plastic seals made me a bit nervous giving me a bit of pressure.  :stretcher: But it was a good debate, not to criticize but to improve. So yesterday evening, rather than to make a new mirror  a re-did it the lola because there were few pixels around the exhaust  I was not happy with and I was afraid you could see it.

By the way it is flattering to see how much appreciations and now expectations you have on my small works. I am now at 7 mirrors done and 5 to go.  Sometime next week everything should be ready. :wave:

Certainly not my intention to criticise. Just for your interest, Walpres Racemaster mirrors were supplied in the 60's to BRM, Brabham and Ferrari, among others. It was a pretty generic racing part, back then. (I've dug up some more photos of original 60's Walpres Racemasters now, showing the seal clearly, but I can't find any period shots of them on F1 or F2 cars from the right angle. And, as has been pointed out, the seal can very easily look like a reflection.) Anyway, it was just a very, very minor note on authenticity, I just like to discuss these things because I'm really into 60's racing cars! I have absolutely no intention of creating any controversy, and the very LAST thing I would want to do is to put any pressure on you, Gianfranco. I'm a great admirer of your work, and, like everyone else, I look forward to seeing this latest addition to the fantastic F2 Mod. :thumbup:

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Posted Feb 05 2012 - 05:31 AM

Hi Delgs,

indeed I appreciated your comments and pictures. At the end, for one or another reason I re-did all of them. I think they now look more real than before, also thanks to your advices. They are basically of two type (plus the ferrari which have another shape). The lotus are chromed. The other are darker and the ring is different. In all, you can guess a sort of seal or separation between mirror and ring. I am just packing them. They will be ready in post #1 in .... minutes.   :wave:

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Posted Feb 05 2012 - 05:49 AM

Gianfranco, thanks for your nice work!:thumbup:

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Posted Feb 05 2012 - 06:22 AM

Thank you! :applause:

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Posted Feb 05 2012 - 06:43 AM

Thank you, Gianfranco.  Seals or no seals, your mod is a welcome - and noticeable - addition to the F2 cars.

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Posted Feb 05 2012 - 06:48 AM

Thanks very much. :clap2:

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Posted Feb 05 2012 - 08:46 AM

Thanks, the realism police must be very proud of you! :)

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Posted Feb 05 2012 - 11:18 AM

pfff those are not period mirrors - they aren't dirty :D

j/k great work gianfranco

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Posted Feb 05 2012 - 11:40 AM

Thank you Gianfranco for your add-on !!! :hat-tip: I like very much this F2 mod  :thumbup:

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Posted Feb 06 2012 - 06:47 AM

View Postsky, on Feb 05 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:

pfff those are not period mirrors - they aren't dirty :D

j/k great work gianfranco
Hi Roman, I am happy you and all the others, like them. But it is not true that they are all cleaned  ;) . On the four lotus and on the ferrari I managed to keep the dirty background with fingerprints and scratches.  I found that such a brilliant idea and realization of the originator, that it would have been a pity not to maintain it. But it is hardly visible. The others didn’t have it and I did not dare to copy it all over and to re-do mirrors  again and again.  It means also the other team’s mechanics were cleaner. :D

I also like to say that my work is just cosmetic to highlight even more the beauty of the F2 mod.  Yesterday  I drove a couple of short races and I find amazingly good the behaviour of the AIs. They are exactly how you would expect from racing in minor class, where the performance of the car is less important than the driver skill. The cars also, they do not damage at the first out of track as the F1. It was fun. :)

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Posted Feb 06 2012 - 08:49 AM

That REALLY is overkill for the realism police !

(but thinking it over, did you take the fingerprints from the correct team's mechanics ? ) :rofl:  

Thank you SO much Gianfranco  :clap2:

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Posted Feb 07 2012 - 11:24 AM

Thanks for the objects in mirrors for the F2 mod

Nice addon  :clap2:



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Posted Feb 07 2012 - 01:25 PM

Great addon!
Thx Gianfranco! :thumbup:



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