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#1 Ralonso

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Posted Feb 16 2021 - 04:49 PM

Hey Guys!

In order to prepare myself to the upcoming 3rd race of the Formula V10 championship I'm actually running in Automobillista 2, I came back to the iconic Monaco race circuit!

See here why each (sim) racer should love this track:



And enjoy!

What's about you, Do YOU like to race at Monaco?

Thank you very much and cheers!

Ralonso

Edited by Ralonso, Feb 16 2021 - 04:49 PM.


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Posted Feb 17 2021 - 12:05 AM

Lol, as a voice of dissent ... I hate Monaco, it is a complete anachronism in auto racing.  I feel the only reason it is still in use is the vast amount of money there, and the many drivers who live there.  Tradition?  Ha!  where is tradition of original Hockenheim, original Spa, original Silverstone, not to mention Brands Hatch, Watkins Glen, Kyalami, Zandvoort, etc.

If you were to take the Monaco circuit exactly as it exists today, or even as fifty years ago, and place it in a rural area without the hotels and banks and casinos, just pits and grandstands and food courts in an open park, much like Road Atlanta or Mid-Ohio .... would F1 even consider racing there?  F1 will not even consider racing at Road Atlanta or Mid-Ohio ...or Elkhart Lake or Watkins Glen or Laguna Seca.   But they continue to flock to the wretched "race course" of Monaco.  Thus it is not about the "track" but the locale.  And, in my opinion, that is not true racing.

Let me make a semantic clarification.  I do not hate Monaco the country, only Monaco the auto race.

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Posted Feb 17 2021 - 12:18 AM

View Postjgf, on Feb 17 2021 - 12:05 AM, said:

Lol, as a voice of dissent ... I hate Monaco, it is a complete anachronism in auto racing.  I feel the only reason it is still in use is the vast amount of money there, and the many drivers who live there.  Tradition?  Ha!  where is tradition of original Hockenheim, original Spa, original Silverstone, not to mention Brands Hatch, Watkins Glen, Kyalami, Zandvoort, etc.

If you were to take the Monaco circuit exactly as it exists today, or even as fifty years ago, and place it in a rural area without the hotels and banks and casinos, just pits and grandstands and food courts in an open park, much like Road Atlanta or Mid-Ohio .... would F1 even consider racing there?  F1 will not even consider racing at Road Atlanta or Mid-Ohio ...or Elkhart Lake or Watkins Glen or Laguna Seca.   But they continue to flock to the wretched "race course" of Monaco.  Thus it is not about the "track" but the locale.  And, in my opinion, that is not true racing.

Let me make a semantic clarification.  I do not hate Monaco the country, only Monaco the auto race.
That's an interesting point of view and a good starting point on the controversity of Monaco towards other (maybe even more traditional) and iconic racing circuits! I like that discussion! What I love MOST of Monaco is the challenge to get into "fluidity" and speed, lapping around without touching any barriers at all!.. :-)


Thank you for your inspiring comment!

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Posted Feb 17 2021 - 01:08 AM

As someone once stated in a Monaco race review

"As he goes around the station hairpin you can see the ornate architecture of Europe's top tax haven"

Quote unquote 😀

TP: 🏁

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Posted Feb 17 2021 - 02:43 PM

View Posttwinpotter, on Feb 17 2021 - 01:08 AM, said:

As someone once stated in a Monaco race review

"As he goes around the station hairpin you can see the ornate architecture of Europe's top tax haven"

Quote unquote ������

TP: ������

Hahaha..!! Well, this is another reason to LOVE Monaco, isn't it?! ������������������

Edited by Ralonso, Feb 17 2021 - 02:45 PM.


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Posted Feb 17 2021 - 04:20 PM

We all have our preferences. In my opinion Monza is super boring and should be removed from the F1 calender. (Despite it's history.)

Monaco can be hypnotising once you get in the zone, must be a blast to race there in real life. So I agree Ralonso. :)

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Posted Feb 18 2021 - 12:22 AM

I love Monaco. It's always a challenge to be consistent but when you get into the zone there's nothing else like it. :)

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Posted Feb 18 2021 - 12:30 AM

View PostMillennium, on Feb 17 2021 - 04:20 PM, said:

We all have our preferences. In my opinion Monza is super boring and should be removed from the F1 calender. (Despite it's history.)

Monaco can be hypnotising once you get in the zone, must be a blast to race there in real life. So I agree Ralonso. :)

Thank you very much Erik!


And yes, it's all about the unique driving experience :racer: that Monaco delivers, isn't it?!

I hope I'll be showing it at some extend in the race! :drive1:

View Postmarco lenarduzzi, on Feb 18 2021 - 12:22 AM, said:

I love Monaco. It's always a challenge to be consistent but when you get into the zone there's nothing else like it. :)

That's what I'm talking about!


Thank you, Marco!! :up:

Hope you'll be joining to watch me racing! (I mean in the video).

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Posted Feb 18 2021 - 02:50 AM

View Postjgf, on Feb 17 2021 - 12:05 AM, said:

Lol, as a voice of dissent ... I hate Monaco, it is a complete anachronism in auto racing.  I feel the only reason it is still in use is the vast amount of money there, and the many drivers who live there.  Tradition?  Ha!  where is tradition of original Hockenheim, original Spa, original Silverstone, not to mention Brands Hatch, Watkins Glen, Kyalami, Zandvoort, etc.

If you were to take the Monaco circuit exactly as it exists today, or even as fifty years ago, and place it in a rural area without the hotels and banks and casinos, just pits and grandstands and food courts in an open park, much like Road Atlanta or Mid-Ohio .... would F1 even consider racing there?  F1 will not even consider racing at Road Atlanta or Mid-Ohio ...or Elkhart Lake or Watkins Glen or Laguna Seca.   But they continue to flock to the wretched "race course" of Monaco.  Thus it is not about the "track" but the locale.  And, in my opinion, that is not true racing.

Let me make a semantic clarification.  I do not hate Monaco the country, only Monaco the auto race.

Agreed. Very few, if any, opportunities to actually pass another driver except in pit strategy; so to call it a racing circuit is a bit misleading.

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Posted Feb 18 2021 - 09:29 AM

View PostAlan Davies, on Feb 18 2021 - 02:50 AM, said:


Agreed. Very few, if any, opportunities to actually pass another driver except in pit strategy; so to call it a racing circuit is a bit misleading.

I think it needs to be differentiated between "racing" and "driving" (fast) on that track... I agree with it, that just racing on there is NOT so good.. but for the rest it's still just unique!

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Posted Feb 18 2021 - 10:54 AM

View PostRalonso, on Feb 18 2021 - 09:29 AM, said:

....that just racing on there is NOT so good.. ..

And since F1 is allegedly about racing..... Monaco is not a good venue.  What we have is more of a week long party for affluent people in one of Europe's most picturesque cities culminating in a relatively high speed parade through the streets.

(Some years ago Ecclestone stated, when asked if F1 is about racing or marketing, "F1 is a big business which happens to go racing every two weeks".)

Edited by jgf, Feb 18 2021 - 10:58 AM.


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Posted Feb 19 2021 - 02:19 AM

View Postjgf, on Feb 18 2021 - 10:54 AM, said:

And since F1 is allegedly about racing..... Monaco is not a good venue.  What we have is more of a week long party for affluent people in one of Europe's most picturesque cities culminating in a relatively high speed parade through the streets.

(Some years ago Ecclestone stated, when asked if F1 is about racing or marketing, "F1 is a big business which happens to go racing every two weeks".)

Hahaha this is a very reductive and highly parodistic describtion of what Monaco in some sense might be! But on the same time, it somehow nails the point! (not concerning the driving experience at all, though).




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