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#16 EzaBlade

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Posted Feb 04 2018 - 04:17 PM

View Postpaul skingley, on Feb 04 2018 - 03:17 PM, said:

If you want to see what improvement you get with a graphics card but without spending too much cash, buy a used GTX750ti for around £30-£40 and add to you PCIe slot. You will get a massive improvement over your onboard graphics.

With your PC spec I would not fit anything more expensive than a GTX1050ti.

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Thank you for your reply, this is a great help. I knew that my current system didn't warrant spending too much on it and so your suggestions will really help me to focus my search and hit the second-hand market. Cheers.

Edit: This thanks is aimed at all those that replied.

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Edited by EzaBlade, Feb 05 2018 - 05:49 AM.


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Posted Feb 05 2018 - 04:28 PM

View Postpaul skingley, on Feb 01 2018 - 11:06 AM, said:

I have a win7 machine getting on for ten years old. After the original GTX560ti died I had a GTX750ti in it for a while but recently replaced it with a GTX1050ti.
The 750ti was adequate for GPL online and offline unless you were at the back of the grid at Spa67 in the 55s where frames would drop for half a lap. That is why I upgraded to a 1050ti which gives me a solid 36fps.

Both of those cards have low power consumption and take all their power from the PCIe slot meaning no extra power connectors are required.

I am running 1920x1050 res with high quality settings
CPU = amd Phenom @ 3.8ghz



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Hi, you say no extra power required but I was looking at the specifications for an ASUS GeForce GTX 750Ti on the ASUS website and under Power Consumption it said "up to 150W 1 additional 6 pin PCIe power required". What does this mean? Is there something else I need?

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Posted Feb 05 2018 - 05:52 PM

Paul's advice is very good, in my opinion.

Some 750s have a 6 pin power connector to supply more power to the gpu. We don't know if your power supply has one of those connectors. Some GTX 750s don't have one and get all their electricity from the PCI-E slot. 1050s are the same way.

I might be willing to ship you a better cpu. I have few that fit your type of motherboard that are better than what you're using. You'd have to be willing to get some new thermal paste to install a different cpu. Tell me in what country you reside and I'll check shipping costs.

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Posted Feb 06 2018 - 09:36 AM

Yes there are some Overclocked versions of the 750ti and 1050ti that do have a 6pin connector. Best to avoid those and go for the ones that just use the PCIe slot.

Sorry for the confusion.



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Posted Feb 06 2018 - 11:00 AM

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View Postpaul skingley, on Feb 06 2018 - 09:36 AM, said:

Yes there are some Overclocked versions of the 750ti and 1050ti that do have a 6pin connector. Best to avoid those and go for the ones that just use the PCIe slot.

Sorry for the confusion.



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OK - well it looks like the one I have identified and have several on watch on eBay are all of the type that need the extra 6 pin power thingy. I'll check my PSU tonight and either look at a suitable replacement for that if I need to or maybe find versions of the 750 that don't need extra power.

For info - this is the make I was concentrating on:-

ASUS GeForce GTX 750 Ti (2048 MB) (GTX750TI-OC-2)

and it does indeed state it is overclocked.

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This is a bit of a confusing thing for me and the specifications don't usually make it clear that there is an external power connection required.
A quick bit of research and I think (I say think) these are some of the cards that require no external power and can be simply plugged in to the PCIe slot (I'm concentrating on the 750 price point):-

MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti TF (2048 MB)

EVGA 02G-P4-3751-KR G-SYNC Support GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0


Are there any AMD Radeon specs that will compare favourably with the GTX 750? For instance I saw this but couldn't find out whether it needed the external power connector or not.

MSI AMD Radeon R9 270X 2GB TwinFrozr

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Edit:

I'm resolving the issue of whether the cards need external PSU connections by asking the questions of the eBay sellers. :D

Edited by EzaBlade, Feb 06 2018 - 11:58 AM.


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Posted Feb 06 2018 - 11:01 AM

Paul, could you please point me to a non overclocked 1050ti? I think to replace mine too

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Posted Feb 06 2018 - 11:03 AM

View PostJMF, on Feb 05 2018 - 05:52 PM, said:

Paul's advice is very good, in my opinion.

Some 750s have a 6 pin power connector to supply more power to the gpu. We don't know if your power supply has one of those connectors. Some GTX 750s don't have one and get all their electricity from the PCI-E slot. 1050s are the same way.

I might be willing to ship you a better cpu. I have few that fit your type of motherboard that are better than what you're using. You'd have to be willing to get some new thermal paste to install a different cpu. Tell me in what country you reside and I'll check shipping costs.

That's a very generous offer, I live in the UK so maybe it will be too expensive - thanks all the same, your efforts to help are really appreciated  :thankyou:

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Posted Feb 06 2018 - 03:55 PM

After all the talk of extra connections and overclocked 750s I decided it really was time I opened up the PC to look at the PSU. I think my PSU does have the extra 6 pin connector required but as I have not seen how the pins look on a graphics card I can't be sure. I have taken a photograph showing the PSU label and the 6 pin connector (below). I have also taken a photograph of my expansion slots.

If anyone can confirm that this 6 pin connector is indeed the correct configuration then I will be OK to continue to pursue the cards I was originally chasing. Thanks.

PSU + 6 pin connector
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Posted Feb 06 2018 - 06:30 PM

NO! this is not a GPU power connector!

Look here: http://graphicscardh...wer-connectors/

I would replace the PSU - just make a google search for the PSU...

First comment I found:

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Do your self a favor, avoid it like it has the Black plague of Death.
Basically there :crap:, 50% load they are fine, once you get to 75% load they just shut down. The specs are a complete Lie....

Look for one with an 80+ sticker of a reliable make ~ 450Watt

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Posted Feb 07 2018 - 02:55 AM

View PostCookie, on Feb 06 2018 - 06:30 PM, said:

NO! this is not a GPU power connector!

Look here: http://graphicscardh...wer-connectors/

I would replace the PSU - just make a google search for the PSU...

First comment I found:

Quote

Do your self a favor, avoid it like it has the Black plague of Death.
Basically there are=
Look for one with an 80+ sticker of a reliable make ~ 450Watt

:thankyou:

Thanks for saving me! That website link is also very useful.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by the 80+ sticker?

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Edit:

OK - I found the 80+ thing - thought I would put up a link to a wiki article in case anyone else is following this thread in a similar situation to me...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_Plus

Edited by EzaBlade, Feb 07 2018 - 03:09 AM.


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Posted Feb 08 2018 - 07:47 AM

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Paul, could you please point me to a non overclocked 1050ti? I think to replace mine too

This is the 1050ti I bought
http://uk.gigabyte.c...-N105TD5-4GD#kf

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Posted Feb 08 2018 - 08:18 AM

@EzaBlade

I had not realised so many of 750ti cards have extra power connectors. But you can still find some that don't.
Even more confusing is that some overclocked versions do not need extra power.
When you see a used card check the model number at the manufacturers web site for specifications. Or do what you are doing and ask ;)

These cards are suitable

Asus
https://www.ebay.co....oIAAOSwU9Raeeyf

Palit
https://www.ebay.co....CsAAOSw8RZadexy

eVGA
http://www.ebay.co.u...zgAAOSwEUdae1KE




Good luck


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Edited by paul skingley, Feb 08 2018 - 10:58 AM.


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Posted Feb 08 2018 - 08:22 AM

View Postpaul skingley, on Feb 08 2018 - 07:47 AM, said:

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Paul, could you please point me to a non overclocked 1050ti? I think to replace mine too

This is the 1050ti I bought
http://uk.gigabyte.c...-N105TD5-4GD#kf

Thank you Paul :thumbup:

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Posted Feb 09 2018 - 06:29 AM

View Postpaul skingley, on Feb 08 2018 - 08:18 AM, said:

@EzaBlade

I had not realised so many of 750ti cards have extra power connectors. But you can still find some that don't.
Even more confusing is that some overclocked versions do not need extra power.
When you see a used card check the model number at the manufacturers web site for specifications. Or do what you are doing and ask ;)

These cards are suitable

Asus
https://www.ebay.co....oIAAOSwU9Raeeyf

Palit
https://www.ebay.co....CsAAOSw8RZadexy

eVGA
http://www.ebay.co.u...zgAAOSwEUdae1KE




Good luck


Paul

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Posted Feb 19 2018 - 03:22 PM

View Postpaul skingley, on Feb 04 2018 - 03:17 PM, said:

If you want to see what improvement you get with a graphics card but without spending too much cash, buy a used GTX750ti for around £30-£40 and add to you PCIe slot. You will get a massive improvement over your onboard graphics.

With your PC spec I would not fit anything more expensive than a GTX1050ti.

Paul

I watched the auctions for weeks. All the 750Ti cards were going for £65 - £75. I eventually got one for £57.




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