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#16 Remy

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Posted Jan 14 2015 - 03:25 PM

Some more pics from my work folder

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Posted Jan 14 2015 - 09:53 PM

View PostRemy, on Jan 14 2015 - 03:25 PM, said:

Some more pics from my work folder

Remi... :thankyou:  for your kindness...that picture from Spa is GORGEOUS!!!

Like the Big Lebowski say  https://www.youtube....h?v=XKVmpJaMffM

No...i'm just kidding...but, yes new things has come to light, at least for me!...like the fact that i don´t see any pictures showing a combined oil pressure/temp gauge ...i was wandering if can be chaged in the game by the real one :Meter:  with only oil pressure on the left...
Also the water temp gauge have a white arm, maybe a temp. tell tale...

Edited by hagapito40, Jan 14 2015 - 10:14 PM.


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Posted Mar 02 2015 - 01:10 PM

Just in case someone may need it.. found it among my books

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Posted Mar 03 2015 - 12:35 PM

Okay lads I've made an update based on the things we said in this topic and on some pics I found, editing and re-working some stuff (I haven't created any of these mips, I take no credit for it)

EDIT go to this post http://srmz.net/inde...=15#entry109236

Edited by leon_90, Mar 11 2015 - 11:47 AM.


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Posted Mar 03 2015 - 02:13 PM

I know this is about the cockpit, but the tires are also nice! Laechele mips?

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Posted Mar 03 2015 - 02:52 PM

Nope :)

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Posted Mar 03 2015 - 04:19 PM

Leon,  

Needles red ? they are smarter than white, but RL only on certain entries. Good job !

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Posted Mar 03 2015 - 05:05 PM

You are right Michel. Could you help me? I see that the water gauge had two needles, a red and a white one. Do you know which indicated what?
Oil gauge too had two needles? Which was for what?

I need to know to recolour the right way

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Posted Mar 03 2015 - 06:41 PM

Nevermind Michel, I found my answers ;)

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Posted Mar 04 2015 - 01:32 AM

Only things I could comment on, based on certain photos, is that you could see the strands of the red fibreglass in the upper cockpit walls (on other pics it looks totally smooth, so you have liberty to choose here :)). A current cockpit tries to mimick this fibreglass but ends up looking like big scratches. It's important to give this a fine, controlled weaving pattern if you want to give it a fibreglass look. And second, I think the cloth in the cockpit should have more red to it or be completely black, depending on the version of the 312 you're recreating. That's just constructive commenting on what looks to be the best 312 cockpit to date!

Edited by Nicolas, Mar 04 2015 - 01:40 AM.


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Posted Mar 04 2015 - 10:32 AM

Lads I NEED your help!

I am fixing the needles and gauges since I found them to have always been wrong. The Ferrari cockpit gauges worked this way:

Water and Oil Temperature Gauge: Red needle for oil and White needle for water
Oil Manometre: Red needle for oil
Fuel: Red needle for fuel

Right now I fixed water and oil temperature as you can see by my picture but I cannot figure out how to invert the oil manometre needle!! I need it to be upside down from it's current position. Same place, just facing upwards instead of downards. PLEASE HELP, I am working also for you :)




As for the rest, I am still fixing and tweaking so don't panic ;) Nicolas I will darken a bit the sidewalls ;)

Edited by leon_90, Mar 11 2015 - 11:47 AM.


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Posted Mar 04 2015 - 11:58 AM

Hi Leon,

In GPLTrack Editor, as you are aware, there is the 'poilp' string in the MIRP "PRIM" section when you open ferrari.3do. When you expand this the needle positioner pops up, the Flavor 13 Children 1 node. When you click on it you can change it's position through the X, Y and Z values, but you can also change the rotation axis. The A:? value makes the needle spin around the Z (height) axis. The values are in radians, so π = 3.14 = 180°.

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It's a little hard to wrap your head around, at least it was for me, so picture the Z axis as a tree, and you standing next to it as the needle. A third person is looking at you and the tree, with you on the left of the tree. If you walk half a circle around the tree (180°) you'll be on the other side of the tree, facing the other way than before. For the third person, you are now on the right of the tree, and left and right are switched around compared to before. In the case of the gauge needle, it means it now starts far right (3 o'clock position) instead of far left (9 o'clock position) and moves clockwise to the 6 o'clock position, as opposed to counterclockwise before. Of course in GPL, you will now be seeing the back of the needle instead of the front, but you can't tell the difference :) . Hope this explanation made any sense.

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The B:? value makes the needle spin around the Y (width) axis. The C:? value should make the needle spin around the X (lenght) axis, but that feature doesn't seem to work somehow. But there are workarounds for this, not so much for the B and A values so thankfully they work :) .

Back to the point, if you put in a B:? value of π = 3.14, your needle will flip 180° around the Y axis and it will now move clockwise from 9 to 12 o'clock :) . You'll be seeing the back of the needle as you've rotated it 180° from the driver viewpoint but as said before, there's no difference :D .

So put in a B:? value of π = 3.14 for your poilp MIRP string :) .

Tommie.

Edited by TvO, Mar 04 2015 - 11:59 AM.


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Posted Mar 04 2015 - 03:03 PM

Thank you Tommie it worked! :D I still had to do quite some work to properly center it but it is done :D

Everyone, go here to download my update ;)  http://srmz.net/inde...=30#entry109235

Sorry Hagapito for stealing your thread for so long, hope you won't mind

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Posted Apr 02 2015 - 02:31 AM

Another shot of the cockpit from Grand Prix (1966)

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Edited by leon_90, Apr 02 2015 - 06:47 AM.


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Posted Apr 26 2015 - 06:49 AM

... a couple of photos of Amon's 312 at Mosport 1967:

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