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[Cheeveer]

Hi

I downloaded the latest driver for ATI Radeon HD 4800 gfx card this week and since then the graphics in GPL hasn't worked properly. It did work perfectly before.
Now in Direct3Dv2 mode, the graphics flicker when in the race menu screen, and when I go into the car, the screen becomes totally black. I can return to the menus, but now the text has disappeared.
In OpenGLv2 mode, the graphics looks fine, but it stutters a lot and it feels like you are driving in slow motion.
All this happened when I was about to sort out the controls for the sport cars mod, so it is very frustrating!

This is my specs:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ 3,00ghz
3GB RAM
Windows Vista 64-bit

I've gone through the troubleshooting guide but didn't find anything that could help me. I'm assuming it is a driver issue.

Any help to solve this mystery would be very appreciated!

[ptmac3]

Have a look through this thread and this one too.

[jonelsorel]

Cheeveer, I had the exact same thing happen to me in D3D (5850 here) after installing the 10.8 drivers in august. It didn't go away with 10.9. I tried reverting to 10.7, problem persists. I'm using Driver Cleaner .NET between uninstall and install, but I think some files evade the cleanup process. OpenGL solved it for me, if you can call it that.

I'll be trying the tip on the second page of the second link recommended by ptmac3 (previous post) to see if it changes anything.

Edited by jonelsorel, Sep 30 2010 - 03:03 PM.

[Cheeveer]

 jonelsorel, on Sep 30 2010 - 02:54 PM, said:

Cheeveer, I had the exact same thing happen to me in D3D (5850 here) after installing the 10.8 drivers in august. It didn't go away with 10.9. I tried reverting to 10.7, problem persists. I'm using Driver Cleaner .NET between uninstall and install, but I think some files evade the cleanup process. OpenGL solved it for me, if you can call it that.

I'll be trying the tip on the second page of the second link recommended by ptmac3 (previous post) to see if it changes anything.

Sorry 'bout the late reply, but did it work?

[Bernd Nowak]

I had this problem too. But the Catalyst 10.9a hotfix solved those problems. You can get it here from AMD/ATI: http://support.amd.c...t109Hotfix.aspx

I have used this driver with Windows 7 64 bit and without driver cleaner stuff. D3Dv2 and OpenGLv2 now runs without problems with my ATI 5770 card. I hope that this helps.

[Cheeveer]

 Bernd Nowak, on Oct 05 2010 - 07:33 AM, said:

I had this problem too. But the Catalyst 10.9a hotfix solved those problems. You can get it here from AMD/ATI: http://support.amd.c...t109Hotfix.aspx

I have used this driver with Windows 7 64 bit and without driver cleaner stuff. D3Dv2 and OpenGLv2 now runs without problems with my ATI 5770 card. I hope that this helps.

Fantastic! That solved all my worries.

[jonelsorel]

Thanks Bernd, will try with 5850 now!

EDIT: works! installed right on top of 10.9. Apart from the flickering letters and buttons under replay and a small square mirror on the top left of the screen which I don't know where I got from, everything's fine. This sure took long for them to look into..

Edited by jonelsorel, Oct 05 2010 - 03:38 PM.

[ptmac3]

 jonelsorel, on Oct 05 2010 - 03:17 PM, said:

Thanks Bernd, will try with 5850 now!

EDIT: works! installed right on top of 10.9. Apart from the flickering letters and buttons under replay and a small square mirror on the top left of the screen which I don't know where I got from, everything's fine. This sure took long for them to look into..

I have pretty much the same result. I use the Digital Display Modifier which flickers and the small mirror on the top left where the black bar should be all the way across. I did not check out replay. The instructions for the hotfix state this:

Applicable Products:
This article applies to the following configuration(s):

• Hardware
  • ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 series of products
  • ATI Radeon HD 4850 X2 series of products
• Operating System
  • Windows 7 32-bit Edition
  • Windows 7 64-bit Edition
  • Windows Vista 32-bit Edition
  • Windows Vista 64-bit Edition

My pc does not have the exact hardware requirement.

[Bernd Nowak]

It is for a much more then those listed:

Here's the customer response:

Quote

Dear Customer,
Your service request : SR #{ticketno:[8200353376]} has been reviewed and updated.
Response and Service Request History:
Thank you for the feedback, I have directed it to the Catalyst Crew Team, just incase they are not aware of the issue.
There are many fixes that are not listed in the hotfix notes, they tend to just list the most critical ones they worked out.  
In order to update this service request, please respond, leaving the service request reference intact.
Best regards,
AMD Global Customer Care

There are some release notes somewhere but I can''t find them at the moment.

[ptmac3]

 Bernd Nowak, on Oct 06 2010 - 05:18 AM, said:

It is for a much more then those listed:

Here's the customer response:

Quote

Dear Customer,
Your service request : SR #{ticketno:[8200353376]} has been reviewed and updated.
Response and Service Request History:
Thank you for the feedback, I have directed it to the Catalyst Crew Team, just incase they are not aware of the issue.
There are many fixes that are not listed in the hotfix notes, they tend to just list the most critical ones they worked out.
In order to update this service request, please respond, leaving the service request reference intact.
Best regards,
AMD Global Customer Care

There are some release notes somewhere but I can''t find them at the moment.

That's interesting Bernd. For now, OGLv2 works just fine. There are some limitations to it though, like not being able to use 32 bits, although I haven't retried that yet with this hotfix. And then there is the invisible blinking cursor when trying to name a replay or setup file. It's just not there. And I can't use triple buffering without seeing corruptions in the various menu screens, but who knows if triple buffering would help anything anyway. Other than those things, right now, OGLv2, for GPL, is the *hit man! I definitely can't live with the little mirror in the top left or the flickering numbers in D3Dv2.

[jonelsorel]

@ Mods:  could this be stickied?   I think there's about 5 separate threads concerning ATI & D3D rasterizer issues, which I think have been solved for many by Bernd's solution here.

[pingu666]

 jonelsorel, on Oct 06 2010 - 08:09 AM, said:

@ Mods:  could this be stickied?   I think there's about 5 separate threads concerning ATI & D3D rasterizer issues, which I think have been solved for many by Bernd's solution here.

gonna give this a go in a minute, hope it works out for me then gotta get it set to 1920x1200.. :x

[pingu666]

oks, installed the hotfix, with d3d im getting flickering in menues sometimes :\. calibration box, and when you leave the track and theres the small replay window, flickers there, sometimes green gunked text aswell on driver name etc. which .dll/raster or whatever is best to use? fiddled about abit before trying to fix it, so dont know what im using now

[fpolicardi]

Anyone knows if the Hotfix works with Win XP?
Ciao

[Bernd Nowak]

 fpolicardi, on Oct 18 2010 - 04:08 AM, said:

Anyone knows if the Hotfix works with Win XP?
Ciao

Sorry for the delay. According to this it's only Vista/Windows 7: http://forums.amd.co...threadid=140948

[Jumi2]

So whats the fix for xp? older drivers? Which one is confirmed working? or oglv2? or old rasterisers?
Does the 10.11 driver give still trouble in xp?

Edited by Jumi2, Nov 28 2010 - 07:59 AM.

[Bernd Nowak]

Using 10.11 without problems. Windows 7 here.

[PTRACER]

Nothing mentioned in this thread fixed my stuttering with my ATI card. It would be fine for a lap or two, then it would start to stutter and the framerate would drop to 20fps even though 60fps was being reported.

Two things that did fix this however were:

1. Set Vertical Sync to Always On in Catalyst Control Center
2. Make sure Triple Buffering is enabled in CCC, under the OpenGL settings menu.

D3D doesn't work well with GPL and ATI cards.

[andpan]

Had same problems with my new PC with ATI card, but re-installing the PC solved all Problems. Maybe Norton fooled me, not uncommon.
One is for sure, ATI cards prefer OpenGL V2.

Was not only with GPL, also Flight Simulator X did work only with the second installation.

Welcome back in the Stone Age of Computers!