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#1 Pete Gaimari

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Posted Aug 16 2017 - 07:52 AM

What do you guys think of this? It looks interesting and i'm tempted.

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Posted Aug 16 2017 - 10:06 AM

Seems it will be a useful improvement on pCARS1.  A bit disappointed they chose to add ice and gravel racing rather than focus entirely on improving the basic product.  I will definitely buy it, though I'm worried my PC won't run it very well.  But I will buy it as sequel to pCARS1 and not expecting it to replace my current favourites.

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Posted Aug 16 2017 - 10:29 AM

They couldn't work things out for pC1 and had to scale back on content and game mode (you can find publicized career plans and racing branches), and now they've expanded the types of racing surfaces and depth. Tracks held off from pC1 will be released in pC2 without work done to address the inaccuracies. SMS's owner saw absolutely nothing wrong with the game despite all the documented issues. I'd wait a couple of months after release for adequate user reviews and feedback to come out as nearly everything related to this raises questions and skepticism.

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Posted Aug 16 2017 - 11:10 AM

View PostDavid Wright Lo67, on Aug 16 2017 - 10:06 AM, said:

Seems it will be a useful improvement on pCARS1.  A bit disappointed they chose to add ice and gravel racing rather than focus entirely on improving the basic product.  I will definitely buy it, though I'm worried my PC won't run it very well.  But I will buy it as sequel to pCARS1 and not expecting it to replace my current favourites.

Yes, it looks like it will be a load. It's the first sim i've seen that recommended a 1080 card. I only have a 1060, so we'll see how it does.

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Posted Aug 16 2017 - 12:30 PM

I bought the first game on release day, but was very dissapointed. The physics just feel way off, also all the post processing effects annoyed me. Tried a lot of different settings but there was always some kind of blur active.

It was only a nice game for creating screenshots, so I'll skip this sequel. For me Assetto Corsa tops this game in pretty much every way.

Edited by Millennium, Aug 16 2017 - 12:32 PM.


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Posted Aug 16 2017 - 01:10 PM

Funny you should say that. I watched a video by a racer who started as a sim racer who made it in real racing. He's doing a lot of testing on PC2 and claims it's the most real to a real race car feel. He was comparing AC and RF2 to PC2.

I forgot his name.

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Posted Aug 16 2017 - 02:13 PM

I've never heard any simracer saying that before, but everyone has their opinion ofcourse. It's definitly not as good as RF2 or iRacing physics, and according to a majority of Steam and Youtube channels communities I mostly see people that think AC is a lot better as well.

I don't know if you ever played the NFS Shift series (it's from the same makers) but to me it feels like Project Cars is still on that simcade level of realism.

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Posted Aug 16 2017 - 02:28 PM

We're talking about PC 2. Did all the guys you're talking about try it already? I'll find that video.

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Posted Aug 16 2017 - 02:51 PM

I'm still looking for that video, but I ran into this one. Graphics are really nice, but it looks like it has too much grip.

https://www.youtube....h?v=nmt-GsiejNs

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Posted Aug 16 2017 - 03:00 PM

This one is much better. He's not using TrackIR, so no crazy head movements. The high speed grip looks good. He was breaking loose a lot and you could see the car had lift like it should. Maybe that first video was on easy settings or something.

Check this one.

https://www.youtube....h?v=BmOrbt1SB_w

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Posted Aug 16 2017 - 03:51 PM

Graphics are great, always has been. But physics still look very much arcade style to me. Compare it to the Lotus 49 from iRacing, the one in Project Cars looks like it is riding on rails to me. The steering also always felt a bit vague in Project Cars, never had that in other racegames.

Anyway, can't say much about PC2 but based on my experience with the first game I'd rather pass it. Which doesn't mean it's bad, my brother actually really liked the first game. (He's not really in to other sims though)

Edited by Millennium, Aug 16 2017 - 03:54 PM.


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Posted Aug 16 2017 - 04:09 PM

I never thought the physics for the iRacing 49 was wrong. As do many others. I've never seen the 49 break loose at high speed like it does on iRacing. That's why I gave up on them.

I wish I could find that video again. He talked about iRacing. He said the racing is great, but didn't think the physics were right.

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Posted Aug 16 2017 - 09:27 PM

Wait for the demo to drive it, find someone on YouTube who has videos and has extremely similar views to you and posts a review or early look, and if you buy the game, make the most of the 2 hours you have before being ineligible for a refund.

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Posted Aug 17 2017 - 02:51 AM

I hated PCars 1 because of the terrible AI, inaccurate tracks and uninspiring physics. It sounds like they've improved PCars2 in all those areas but I won't be rushing into buying it...........maybe when it goes on Steam Sale in 6 months time.

I just don't have much time for simracing at the moment, I don't really need another jack-of-all-trades sim that doesn't simulate a complete season of racing with all the correct cars, circuits and drivers.

I'd rather spend my free time driving GPL, Dirt Rally or Assetto Corsa, I just really enjoy driving them.... much more than other sims for some reason even though they have their faults. :)

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Posted Aug 17 2017 - 07:50 AM

Well, Sept is the beginning of my hunting season, so i'll be in no rush either. I'm actually taking a break from sim racing and have started up another passion that i've done for two decades. Combat flight sims. DCS and BMS at the moment.

I started this to see what others thought. I've had PC 1 bought in Steam for years and only put 1 hour into it. I'll wait to see what others think of PC 2 before thinking about buying it.

Edited by Pete Gaimari, Aug 17 2017 - 07:52 AM.


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Posted Aug 17 2017 - 02:42 PM

Everyone competent seems to say good things about PC2. So far I heard ISR, Sim Racing Paddock, Gamer Muscle, and a few other. Everyone seemed impressed with it. I am still skeptical to be honest. Looking at videos it seems to me that problems which were present in the first game are still there in this one. I'd wait for reviews of the final product before pulling the trigger. And even then, I would be ready to use a chrono to avoid going over the 2 hours mark for a refund. Then take a break, think about it, and decide what to do :D

When they butcher like this the P4,  I can't take them seriously
https://www.youtube....h?v=l5lt0wIjTQg

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Posted Aug 17 2017 - 02:47 PM

My gaming breaks over the years,like Pete, once took me to other simulation games.
Things like Euro trucker,UK trucker,Wheels of Steel,Lumberjack sim,bus driver sim(omsi) etc etc. Infact it got ridiculous with farming sim,fork lift sim and construction sim.
Now my recent break has been digging out my old Ps2 console and reliving some classics.
I found I was always modding,installing or uninstalling on my pc without playing.
Now my old Ps2 is linked to my brand new all singing and dancing HD smart tv. With a HD adapter in back of console and Hdmi into tv. Graphics never looked this good on my old analogue tv 😊

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Posted Aug 17 2017 - 02:50 PM

I hate videos like that. Did he have the AI set on grandma? It's obvious he didn't qualify on the back of that grid. He just wanted to show off by blasting through the field. meh.....

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Posted Aug 17 2017 - 04:11 PM

I hate to see someone fly past other cars that easy. Seems pointless buying or playing a game if its that easy. You need a gpl type challenge. Poor 😐

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Posted Aug 18 2017 - 10:40 AM

View Postleon_90, on Aug 17 2017 - 02:42 PM, said:

Everyone competent seems to say good things about PC2. So far I heard ISR, Sim Racing Paddock, Gamer Muscle, and a few other. Everyone seemed impressed with it. I am still skeptical to be honest. Looking at videos it seems to me that problems which were present in the first game are still there in this one. I'd wait for reviews of the final product before pulling the trigger. And even then, I would be ready to use a chrono to avoid going over the 2 hours mark for a refund. Then take a break, think about it, and decide what to do :D

When they butcher like this the P4,  I can't take them seriously
https://www.youtube....h?v=l5lt0wIjTQg

Sorry but those guys are not competent sources, much less regarding details (especially SimRacingPaddock and GamerMuscle). A couple of other mildly popular and friendly guys like Jimmy Broadbent aren't either, and I don't think Matt Orr will be playing this anytime near release. I think for many skeptics it will come down to buying and beating the 2-hour time limit if no demo is provided (red flag #1).

Edited by Gui, Aug 18 2017 - 12:23 PM.





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