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#61 Cookie

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Posted May 18 2018 - 04:18 AM

I would say the last "open wheel" mod without wings is the most realistic: 67F2

I did lots of slipstreaming at Hockenheim...

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Posted May 18 2018 - 05:45 AM

View PostCookie, on May 18 2018 - 04:18 AM, said:

I would say the last "open wheel" mod without wings is the most realistic: 67F2

I did lots of slipstreaming at Hockenheim...

I agree. The slipstreaming of this MOD is somewhat insane compared to other openwheeler MODs. The MOD 66 is also strong but it does not even come close to the F2 67. In the original MOD 67 F1 I never noticed any slipstreaming... As soon as I have time I will try the Historic 67 to see if it has slipstreaming or not.

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Posted May 18 2018 - 05:49 AM

View PostErnesto Mayer, on May 18 2018 - 05:45 AM, said:

View PostCookie, on May 18 2018 - 04:18 AM, said:

I would say the last "open wheel" mod without wings is the most realistic: 67F2

I did lots of slipstreaming at Hockenheim...

I agree. The slipstreaming of this MOD is somewhat insane compared to other openwheeler MODs. The MOD 66 is also strong but it does not even come close to the F2 67. In the original MOD 67 F1 I never noticed any slipstreaming... As soon as I have time I will try the Historic 67 to see if it has slipstreaming or not.

Thanks both!

The historic 1967 mod (or 1967x) has the same slipstream as the mod 66, as said by his author.

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Posted May 18 2018 - 05:56 AM

View Postmcmirande, on May 18 2018 - 05:49 AM, said:

View PostErnesto Mayer, on May 18 2018 - 05:45 AM, said:

View PostCookie, on May 18 2018 - 04:18 AM, said:

I would say the last "open wheel" mod without wings is the most realistic: 67F2

I did lots of slipstreaming at Hockenheim...

I agree. The slipstreaming of this MOD is somewhat insane compared to other openwheeler MODs. The MOD 66 is also strong but it does not even come close to the F2 67. In the original MOD 67 F1 I never noticed any slipstreaming... As soon as I have time I will try the Historic 67 to see if it has slipstreaming or not.

Thanks both!

The historic 1967 mod (or 1967x) has the same slipstream as the mod 66, as said by his author.

If so, that's great, I really like the slipstreaming of MOD 66, it seems pretty realistic. Actually I still have not had the time available to enjoy MOD 67 Historic, but this information encouraged me to get some time.

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Posted May 18 2018 - 06:09 AM

Oh no Ernesto, I said F2 because the mod team had the longest experience then!

The 65s have insane tow, wich is dangerous at low distance,
if you are braking in close tow the sucking effect can be stronger and you rear end the other car, first you do not understand what happened :unsure:
The 66s have a little less tow

This does not happen in F2 ;)

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Posted May 18 2018 - 06:20 AM

View PostCookie, on May 18 2018 - 06:09 AM, said:

Oh no Ernesto, I said F2 because the mod team had the longest experience then!

The 65s have insane tow, wich is dangerous at low distance,
if you are braking in close tow the sucking effect can be stronger and you rear end the other car, first you do not understand what happened :unsure:
The 66s have a little less tow

This does not happen in F2 ;)

Weird thing ...
I participated in an online race of F2 67 in Hockenheim and was impressed to reach 307 km/h behind another car due to slipstreaming (something I could never repeat with MOD 65) ... So when I saw your post , I agreed at once.
I already noticed that the MOD 65 has it too, but I've always felt that a possible runaway behind an opponent was due more to difficult braking with narrower tires.
Anyway, let's enjoy slipstream!! :lol:

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Posted May 18 2018 - 06:52 AM

And how compares the slipstream of the 69x and 55 mods with those?

Thanks for the data, Axel :)

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Posted May 19 2018 - 10:56 AM

Also... does the slipstream model of any mod include the "dirty air" effect (i.e. turbulences just after the distance of tow by the slipstream)?

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Posted May 19 2018 - 03:13 PM

And what I'd like to know is does the GPL draft spread back in a cone or is it just directly behind the car ahead (which is what I suspect is the case)?

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Posted May 20 2018 - 06:48 PM

View PostBob Simpson, on May 19 2018 - 03:13 PM, said:

And what I'd like to know is does the GPL draft spread back in a cone or is it just directly behind the car ahead (which is what I suspect is the case)?

According to my experiences, it just works directly behind the car ahead...

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Posted May 25 2018 - 03:55 AM

IIRC it spreads back in a cone. However, it does not follow the path the car took across the track, but always stays directly behind the car. The effect of this flaw is negligable.

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Posted Jun 05 2018 - 10:28 AM

View PostCookie, on May 18 2018 - 06:09 AM, said:

Oh no Ernesto, I said F2 because the mod team had the longest experience then!

The 65s have insane tow, wich is dangerous at low distance,
if you are braking in close tow the sucking effect can be stronger and you rear end the other car, first you do not understand what happened :unsure:
The 66s have a little less tow

This does not happen in F2 ;)

I love the 65 mod with all of its most recent graphical updates, but one of the things that has really annoyed me about the mod since day one is the insane drafting mechanics.  There seems to be a vacuum left behind the cars nearly half a kilometer long!  I can live with the cars' exaggerated durability (I drive as clean as I possibly can anyway, so the tanked up durability is negligible most of the time) but the over-the-top slipstreaming mechanics kills it for me.  Every time.

Is there any way a user can tweak this so that it's not so bad?




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