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#1 mcmirande

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Posted Feb 10 2017 - 09:39 PM

Hello everybody.

I spent almost two entire mybroga seasons fighting against my internet provider... and now it appears that most of my connection troubles (lag and loss of packets) was somewhat related with a change of computer I did.

Now I have both with the same install (copied from the former to the newest computer) and did some comparisons.

Both are laptops with i7 processors (one of them of second generation and w7 and the other of third generation and w10).

I noticed two main things. One is the lag. In the newer computer I just can't enjoy online races. The lag is unbearable and I'm a real danger to all other drivers racing somewhat close to me.
In the older one, with w7, I enjoy racing. I still have some loss of packets but the experience is definitively better.

The second thing I noted is that the FF of the wheel is much more predictable in the older computer, which allows me to drive much more confortably and to add some risk in my maneuvres.

So... I still can't discover which damned thing is causing those differences... are the crappy window versions (which always move to worst and heavier) or do you think it could be related to some other thing I'm not considering?

Thanks! Marcos

#2 Stefan Roess

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Posted Feb 11 2017 - 03:31 AM

Marcos, could you pls post the system specs of both systems?

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Posted Feb 12 2017 - 03:28 AM

There's a lot of spyware and data logging going on in Windows 10 that may be hogging your broadband or processor. There are videos to turn as much of it off as possible although Microsoft will switch it all back on each time Win 10 updates itself.

This video springs to mind, it starts off at the Win 10 setup screen although you'll find the stuff he talks about if you search deeply enough in the settings menus:

https://www.youtube....h?v=u1kGMCfb2xw

There are probably better videos / sites but it might give you some ideas. I've switched all this stuff off on my new machine and it definitely helps, although it still does all sorts of bizarre things and I'm pretty disappointed with Win 10 generally.

Edited by Fat Rich, Feb 12 2017 - 03:29 AM.


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Posted Feb 12 2017 - 05:09 AM

MS also compromised W7 with a lot of spyware :harumph:

So my decision is to only use an MS OS when there is no other way...

Linux has all the features you need for online action, and wine gets better every day.

Marcos I know you have the problem of GPLShift in linux, why don't you ask in the winehq forum for help?

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Posted Feb 12 2017 - 08:35 AM

Thanks to all!

Yes, Cookie. The single race I could enjoy in the newer computer (which has double boot) was under linux. The connection worked much better than under w10.
But I had to drive using paddles because the single software allowing to me to race with the stick is fairshift, that makes me do a lot of mistakes when gearing. That's because if you use 0.221 seconds or less to gear, the gear doesn't enter and you'll be in neutral...

I'll ask at winehq. You're right.

Thanks to all! Marcos

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Posted Feb 12 2017 - 08:37 AM

If the creator of the great fairshift would program an "unfairshift" (which would be relatively easy for him), all the problem would be solved ;)

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Posted Feb 12 2017 - 09:14 AM

Thanks FR :clap2: For the YT link
Great Geek info and very helpful :hat-tip:

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Posted Feb 12 2017 - 03:19 PM

View Posttwinpotter, on Feb 12 2017 - 09:14 AM, said:

Thanks FR :clap2: For the YT link
Great Geek info and very helpful :hat-tip:

TP:

Indeed, very helpful.

thx

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Posted Feb 12 2017 - 05:02 PM

I also had a problem, on my Windows 10 (Tablet) regarding the setting of power settings, in the control panel, from balanced plan, to the performance plan.
For some reason, it would not show me any other power plan,other than balanced.

So I followed this info link  https://windowsforum...er-plan.212676/

Obviously,only do the registry bit at your own risk.I do not take any blame for any later problems.
That is of course, that you have this issue ?

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Edited by twinpotter, Feb 12 2017 - 05:09 PM.


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Posted Feb 13 2017 - 05:48 AM

View PostPedro, on Feb 12 2017 - 03:19 PM, said:

View Posttwinpotter, on Feb 12 2017 - 09:14 AM, said:

Thanks FR :clap2: For the YT link
Great Geek info and very helpful :hat-tip:

TP:

Indeed, very helpful.

thx

very interesting video, thanks for that :thumbup:

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Posted Feb 13 2017 - 08:47 AM

I have already posted this at another thread somewhere.

This is a really good freeware software to turn off all "calling home" features of Windows 10.
You have to restart and use O&O ShutUp10 at least two or three times to end all stuff.
After a Windows update you should run this tool again.

O&O ShutUp10
https://www.oo-software.com

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Posted Feb 13 2017 - 09:01 AM

Cheers Stefan  :thumbup:

TP  :coffee:

Edited by twinpotter, Feb 13 2017 - 09:03 AM.


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Posted Feb 13 2017 - 04:37 PM

Stefan!  Have you got any tips on the O&O Shutup10,regarding what to switch on and off.
I know it's a personal thing and there is a help section on the tabs (plus Help Menu)but is there something I should look out for.Or just a case of looking deeply into this app,by myself ?

Do you activate this to stop background stuff.So do you activate in bottom tray,whilst gaming? Or is it active,once you set it up ?

Also found this add on for your browser,to help cut down on tracking.It is available for Chrome,Firefox and Opera.

https://www.ghostery...wser-extension/

https://www.ghostery.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghostery


http://lifehacker.co...-to-a-514417864

AND A REVIEW QUOTE:


Decide for yourself

Now that you’ve heard Ghostery’s side of the story, you can decide whether or not to use the Ghostery extension in your browser. While it’s true that there is some data being gathered, Ghostery makes a significant effort to explain what it’s doing. And since you have to explicitly opt-in, there’s not a lot to complain about here.

If you’re still skeptical about Ghostrank, there’s no obligation to enable that feature, and you’ll still retain all of the same tracker blocking benefits. And of course, you can always use network monitoring tools like Little Snitch or Wireshark to verify that there’s nothing unexpected going on in your network. Personally, I continue to use Ghostery in various browsers to help thwart specific trackers. But of course, Privacy Badger offers similar functionality, so you’re never forced into relying on a single service to stay private online




Thanks: TP :hat-tip:

Edited by twinpotter, Feb 13 2017 - 04:48 PM.


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Posted Feb 13 2017 - 07:28 PM

I recently discovered that my Win 10 Home 64-bit system had been updated without my knowledge. Somehow, my nVidia graphics drivers had been silently updated to version 376.53. I am now searching for the best methods to prevent Microsoft updating drivers and other software on my system without my knowledge. Any advice and assistance would be most welcome. Thanks all.

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Posted Feb 13 2017 - 07:51 PM

Update methods are the main reason that I've stayed with Win 7.

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