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#21 Manfred Cubenoggin

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Posted Apr 26 2015 - 07:58 PM

Yes, that's right, Ginetto.  I attended the very first Player's 200 at Mosport way back in 1961 and have been there to spectate for countless other events over the years.  I was born and raised just about a 20 minute drive down the road in Bowmanville.  I ran about two dozen events there between '73 and '83 in FVees, FF and even a one-off in a street stock '77 Honda Civic.  I squeezed a 2:05 out of the little shoe box and believe you me, I was trying hard.  :)

The graphics adders I use for Papy's Mosport just give me the look I want.  That objects are invisible makes little difference.  As I was the one to make them 'disappear' in the first place, I do readily recall where they are.

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Posted May 03 2015 - 10:37 AM

File is up!! :) :D :)

Remember to re-read the post for new and important informations!!

HERE

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Posted May 03 2015 - 11:36 AM

Many Thanks Leon ... just downloading ! :up:

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Posted May 03 2015 - 11:54 AM

Thanks Leon and the team for this update! :)

Two question: Why did you remove sand along the track for 1967? From race video i think it still was there like in 1966.
What about 1969? Are you planning any update for this season?

Why just not move grandstand far below the track for 1966?

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Posted May 03 2015 - 01:38 PM

Thank you lads :) :)

View PostPavel, on May 03 2015 - 11:54 AM, said:

Two question: Why did you remove sand along the track for 1967? From race video i think it still was there like in 1966.

In 1967 there was almost no sand, compared to 1966
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View PostPavel, on May 03 2015 - 11:54 AM, said:

What about 1969? Are you planning any update for this season?

I might, if pictures were to be found. Currently I have almost none.
However, right now I plan to take a break from this ;) too much time spent on the same work it's dangerous :P who knows what the future holds!


View PostPavel, on May 03 2015 - 11:54 AM, said:

Why just not move grandstand far below the track for 1966?

Unfortunately it's no easy task. First, because I am terrible at working on tracks 3do. Second, because the track has three grandstands using the same directories. Two on the straight and one after the jump that leads to T9 I think. Modifying the two grandstands on the straight modifies also the other one which should be left as it is (I think, Manfred could be more precise here if also that one was actually there or not in 1966). We may "delete" all three, problem is I don't know how to do it :( I had my fair share of pulled hair working on these 3do :D

Edited by leon_90, May 03 2015 - 01:40 PM.


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Posted May 03 2015 - 02:00 PM

Leon, on all your pictures I see sand. But it's wet so look darker than dry.
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View Postleon_90, on May 03 2015 - 01:38 PM, said:

Unfortunately it's no easy task. First, because I am terrible at working on tracks 3do. Second, because the track has three grandstands using the same directories. Two on the straight and one after the jump that leads to T9 I think. Modifying the two grandstands on the straight modifies also the other one which should be left as it is (I think, Manfred could be more precise here if also that one was actually there or not in 1966). We may "delete" all three, problem is I don't know how to do it :( I had my fair share of pulled hair working on these 3do :D

Just move position of two grandstands on the sraight. Don't touch others. Move them below the track. You never will see them from any TV cameras or from incar view.

Edited by Pavel, May 03 2015 - 02:07 PM.


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Posted May 03 2015 - 02:14 PM

View PostPavel, on May 03 2015 - 02:00 PM, said:

Leon, on all your pictures I see sand. But it's wet so look darker than dry.

mm, could be. Well fix is easy, if you prefer sand also for 1967 :) just copy all edgexx.mip files (there are six of them) from CanAm 1966 folder inside "Options" and overwrite over the main one inside Mosport ;)

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Posted May 04 2015 - 03:30 AM

I've done this already ;)

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Same place (turn 1) in 1969
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Posted May 04 2015 - 04:21 AM

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Posted May 04 2015 - 05:39 AM

Ok ok I got it guys :D :D I am working on a new "1967 F1" folder :) will release it as soon as possible

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Posted May 04 2015 - 07:45 AM

Lot of very nice work Leon.
Thanks...hadn't run Mosport for awhile and you've made it a much more enjoyable.
Appreciate the effort.
Try to put hair back in...maybe super glue?

Edited by John Woods, May 04 2015 - 07:55 AM.


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Posted May 04 2015 - 09:20 AM

Grandstands?  GRANDSTANDS???  WE DON'T NEED NO STINKING GRANDSTANDS!!!

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Plug these mips into your mosport folder et voila, the grandstands, all gone.

Want 'em back?  Kill off those mips or better yet...  Use these...

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No guarantees on what happens to your install.  Sorry but I couldn't be bothered to eliminate the disembodied flagpoles at the top of the straight.  You want to try?  A 'blank' mip has been provided for you to fool about with 'em but you may kill off others elsewhere placed.  Caution.

Keep in mind that these mips are appropriate only for pre-1967 Canadian GP.

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Posted May 04 2015 - 09:31 AM

Very nice Leon. Great job.


Manfred...Why get rid of the grandstands? It's a race.

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Posted May 04 2015 - 09:44 AM

View PostPete Gaimari, on May 04 2015 - 09:31 AM, said:

Very nice Leon. Great job.

Manfred...Why get rid of the grandstands? It's a race.

Thank you :) :)

Because in 1966 they were not been built yet. They were for the 1967 F1 GP ;) This AiO is meant to work both for 1967 and also for the upcoming 1966 CanAm mod

View PostJohn Woods, on May 04 2015 - 07:45 AM, said:

Lot of very nice work Leon.

Try to put hair back in...maybe super glue?

Thanks :) nah, I think they are gone for good unfortunately :P

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Posted May 04 2015 - 09:50 AM

Manfred I tried your fix and it works :) there's a problem though, it also gets rid of a lot of the public together with the three grandstands :(

The new 1967 folder should be coming soon ;)

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Posted May 04 2015 - 10:39 AM

keep your mips and try this 3do

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Posted May 04 2015 - 12:10 PM

The sound is linked to the original grandstands so if you get rid of those 3do there will be no sound implemented :)

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Posted May 04 2015 - 12:14 PM

Remy, that removes the main straight grandstands very well, while leaving the back straight grandstand intact.  Thank you!  :)

It appears that there was a large car park where the grandstands were later constructed... with room for crowds to watch the race at the fences.

As, for the additional bare poles.... those had very large Canadian flags that were not there, thus made invisible.  The placement of these additional poles (the same 3D structure as those needed for telephone poles) must be in the mosport.3do file or trk file.

... as ginetto said.  ;)

Yup, these things are always difficult without a full team to do modifications.... and the 'proper' amount of time.  :)

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Posted May 04 2015 - 02:46 PM

Thanks Leon :up:

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Posted May 05 2015 - 01:52 PM

Sorry for being late lads.. unfortunately I am suffering from some health problems in the last few days and today I even got to the hospital :(

I have prepared a new 1967 F1 optional folder which is meant to replace the old one, you can download it in first post here
basically it has sand edges and a new edgea.mip done by Gliebzeit :) I hope you enjoy
of course, since it is a separate download, you can always keep your old one if you prefer it




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