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#1 jonny'o

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Posted Aug 27 2017 - 09:01 AM

Hey guys!
Is there any possibility of mod69x to mod69z?
Where this Z would be the same mod but did not use down force?

I would like to have a championship with these cars totally without down force
I know this is possible using the 0 setting, But there may be mistrust.
Is this installation without down force a great option for a new mod68?

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Posted Aug 27 2017 - 10:54 AM

I did it but with the mod69 and using directly the Irridux 68 carset.

1968 Grands Prix is copy of 1969 Grands Prix
68CARS is Irridux Carset
you must add GPLC68.cst in MODS/GEM+

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Edited by ed76, Aug 27 2017 - 11:02 AM.


#3 jonny'o

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Posted Aug 27 2017 - 11:55 AM

But I need a physics 69 but do not use down force.....

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Posted Aug 27 2017 - 12:04 PM

1969 Grand Prix is physics 69 !
but
GPLC68.cst ... without wings !!

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Posted Aug 27 2017 - 12:53 PM

They started using wing in 68, so why would you want no downforce for 68 ?

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Posted Aug 27 2017 - 01:14 PM

at the beginning , but he can use the mod67 historic , carset n°7 for Kyalami and Jarama

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Posted Aug 27 2017 - 01:26 PM

 paul skingley, on Aug 27 2017 - 12:53 PM, said:

They started using wing in 68, so why would you want no downforce for 68 ?

But it was not effective.. if not detrimental at all! During the Monaco Grand Prix in '69 drivers had the chance to use wings during practice, but not during the qualifying session and the race due to the events occurred in Spain. They found out that they were 1 second a lap faster without those gull high wings. In fact, they were completely redesigned after that, not only due to safety reason.
The only one with effective wings I believe was Ferrari. It was mounted on the roll-bar and engine, so it was firm and stable, and it wasn't that much high so to lose all effectiveness. Still, it was just a simple plane wing, so what difference could it really make?

Edited by leon_90, Aug 27 2017 - 01:26 PM.


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Posted Aug 27 2017 - 05:54 PM

Paul, I have a league with the 69x, and I would like to have another, but without the downforce.

Would be great option for another characteristic mod ,

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Posted Aug 27 2017 - 06:48 PM

The beginning of the season 1968 I love it, machines with great power, without wings and beautiful designs.

Edited by Reco21, Aug 27 2017 - 06:50 PM.


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Posted Aug 29 2017 - 03:47 AM

Any news for the Mod68?

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Posted Aug 29 2017 - 12:22 PM

There are two requests here.

Jonny wants for his league a 69x mod but with disabled downforce.

Everyone else is asking about a 1968 mod.

@Johnny - When we did 69 originally we did not have downforce because Nigel had not discovered it at that time. And the mod only had 7 slots.
So could you use that old 69mod ?

For 68 to do it properly you would need to have wing /downforce to be used later in the season because by round 6 most of the cars had some kind of aero assistance.

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Posted Aug 29 2017 - 04:01 PM

Exactly Paul, I would like a mod69x for my league, disabled down force.
Because mod69x has many graphical options and so I can manage the custom carset for each rider and with competitive cars.

I think the mod69 disabled down force was interesting, because 50% of 68 was like that, meaning it would be interesting to take advantage of 69x work for this, mainly due to the lack of people able to help in the works.

Finally, this option is for my league and for the fans 68 jobs :)

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Posted Aug 29 2017 - 04:05 PM

But Paul, if it is to facilitate the work I am pleased to use the old mod69 disabled downforce

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Posted Aug 29 2017 - 04:26 PM

 jonny, on Aug 29 2017 - 04:05 PM, said:

But Paul, if it is to facilitate the work I am pleased to use the old mod69 disabled downforce
yes and you can use the Irridux 68 carset !

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Posted Aug 30 2017 - 04:45 PM

 paul skingley, on Aug 29 2017 - 12:22 PM, said:

......
@Johnny - When we did 69 originally we did not have downforce because Nigel had not discovered it at that time. And the mod only had 7 slots.
So could you use that old 69mod ?
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Sorry to disagree with you Paul, but the original 69 mod definitely had downforce. Making adjustments to the wing settings made a big difference to the cornering behaviour and top speed of the cars.

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Posted Aug 30 2017 - 06:55 PM

Are you thinking about the TC mod Paul? That one came originally without aero physics which was later patched in.

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Posted Aug 31 2017 - 04:45 AM

Actually I can't remember for sure. It was a long time ago and I have worked on a lot of mods.
There was a 69 without downforce but maybe we never released it. So I could be thinking about TC that I did as a side line while we were working on 69.
I will have a dig though my old files.



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Posted Aug 31 2017 - 11:17 AM

Playing devil's advocate here; if you don't want down force, drive a different Mod.  It's not as if you don't have a lot of choice because of the dedication of the mod teams.

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Posted Aug 31 2017 - 04:56 PM

I understand Alan, the point is that there is no available capable people interested in GPL ....... only the old guys.

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Posted Aug 31 2017 - 05:54 PM

"... the point is that there is no available capable people interested in GPL ....... only the old guys"

What the heck does THAT mean?!




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