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#1 Stefan Roess

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Posted Jan 12 2021 - 04:49 PM

GPLRACER - Winter Fun & Test Races

Bottomless Lakes State Park 1967 (bottom)

F1 1965 Mod



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GPLRACER will do a number of fun & test races during our winter break to test the online stability of some tracks for our 2021 cups. The more drivers on the server the better! Everyone is welcome!



Rennen
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- 19.01.2021
- 20:30 CET
- Qualifying: 30 min.
- 8 Runden [laps] -> ca. 30 min.
- Intermediate -> unlimited Shift-R
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Mod Download
GPL 1965 F1 Mod Installer 2.0.2
Track Installer for F1 1965 Season
1965 Mod Full Graphics Update 2018 by Denis Bertrand (db312)

http://65f1.gplworld.de/


Track Download
http://gpltd.bcsims.com/?sbtd=bottom


Track Updates
http://gpltd.bcsims.com/?sbtd=bottom
-> click on the SRMZ button to get track updates

I recommend installing the nice update by db312
http://srmz.net/inde...96

EDIT
Complete updated working track folder here
http://neuforum.gplr...92&p=4243#p4243

Setups
GPLTD: http://gpltd.bcsims.com/?ir=Setups
SRMZ: http://srmz.net/index.php?showforum=21


Empfohlenes Fahrer Verhalten (GPL)
[Recommended Driver Behavior (GPL)]

German: http://gplworld.de/g...ahrer-verhalten
English: http://wiki.grandpri...river_Behaviour


GPL Easy Installation Guide
German: http://www.gplworld....tallation-guide
English: http://www.gplworld....tallation-guide


Good luck & fun!


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Posted Jan 12 2021 - 10:07 PM

Nice graphics update except the closest mountains are the Capitan Mountains and they're 50 miles west of Bottomless Lakes. The picture from the Brabham is looking approximately north. Here's a link to Google's street view shown from a similar position as the Brabham's. https://www.google.c...!7i13312!8i6656

I wonder if they've built any guard rails at Bottomless Lakes yet? I doubt it. New Mexico doesn't have much money.

I live somewhat near this track now. The roads are virtually the same as they were in the mid 1960s. I hope to get down there some day so I can take pictures and video of the park / track. It will be interesting to actually drive on a GPL track. Any suggestions on how to video and photo the area for possible use in GPL, please let me know.

I might try to show up for this one since it's now my home track. :)

Edited by JMF, Jan 12 2021 - 10:12 PM.


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Posted Jan 12 2021 - 11:25 PM

View PostJMF, on Jan 12 2021 - 10:07 PM, said:

Nice graphics update except the closest mountains are the Capitan Mountains and they're 50 miles west of Bottomless Lakes. The picture from the Brabham is looking approximately north. Here's a link to Google's street view shown from a similar position as the Brabham's. https://www.google.c...!7i13312!8i6656

I wonder if they've built any guard rails at Bottomless Lakes yet? I doubt it. New Mexico doesn't have much money.

I live somewhat near this track now. The roads are virtually the same as they were in the mid 1960s. I hope to get down there some day so I can take pictures and video of the park / track. It will be interesting to actually drive on a GPL track. Any suggestions on how to video and photo the area for possible use in GPL, please let me know.

I might try to show up for this one since it's now my home track. :)

Dear JMF,

Thanks a lot for your proposition, and effectively it should be great if you can make a whole picture of the horizon in order to be able to create one for GPL, and of course in high resolution... That would be really fantastic ! :smug2:
And if you could also make a video of the whole route so that we could have an idea of what's along the road, then it would be Byzantium !
And last but not least, if I may say so, a nice big photo of the ground... :rimshot:

After that, if I can't manage to add some files a little more representative of this place, I think that even humbly watching the grass grow is too complicated for me... :sleepy:

I hope I don't misuse your proposal badly  :whistling:

Take good care of yourself JMF :wave:

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Posted Jan 13 2021 - 11:08 AM

I just drove the whole lap with Google Maps. County Road 409
https://www.google.c...!7i13312!8i6656

As JMF states there are no mountains visible but the track topography is undulating and the ground in the lower part of your horizon looks similar.
If you could remove the mountains and add a new sky behind it would be a good approximation. :)



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Posted Jan 13 2021 - 04:58 PM

Thanks Paul :)

Seeing my computer is dead and that I'm using an older one that don't give me the possibility to open Google, Youtube, etc... Could you record this whole lap and send it to me here...?... If its not headache, of course...

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Posted Jan 13 2021 - 07:26 PM

Thanks db for not getting angry with me for criticizing. If you made that graphics update, it looks good. I wouldn't hesitate to use it.

How should I take photos for a horizon? A few years ago I went to a place called Continental Divide Raceway south of Denver, CO. I was hoping to get pictures of the place in case somebody ever tried to recreate it for GPL. I couldn't get to the former track without trespassing but I found a place nearby that gave me a clear 360 degree view of the horizon. I took pictures facing 0 degrees (north), 45 degrees (northeast), 90 degrees (east), and so on, until I had 8 pictures of the horizon.

View Postpaul skingley, on Jan 13 2021 - 11:08 AM, said:

I just drove the whole lap with Google Maps. County Road 409
https://www.google.c...!7i13312!8i6656

As JMF states there are no mountains visible but the track topography is undulating and the ground in the lower part of your horizon looks similar.
If you could remove the mountains and add a new sky behind it would be a good approximation. :)



Paul

That's cool isn't it Paul. The track is still there virtually unchanged from the time it was used as a racing circuit. I think on a clear day if you looked west, northwest you can see the top of one of the Capitan Mountains but it would just be a small triangle above the horizon.

I tried to find some good aerial photos of the area but I wasn't very successful. I was curious about any changes in the vegetation and lake levels since the 1960s. I found pictures dating back to 1951 and water level in the lake on the left is rarely as high as we see in GPL. A photo from June 2014 was the only one I saw with similar water levels. June, July, and August are usually wettest months in New Mexico. That's fortunate for the area considering it's an arid to semi-arid climate.

I hope I don't irritate anybody hijacking this thread like I have.

Take care guys.

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Posted Jan 14 2021 - 02:29 AM

Hi JMF

If you do get a chance to take some photos the best method would be to have the camera on a tripod at the highest point. Take a shot and carefully rotate the camera 30 - 45 degrees and take another. keep going until you have a full 360.
Because the images would have been taken with the same aspect they will be easy to stitch together.


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Posted Jan 14 2021 - 04:00 AM

View PostJMF, on Jan 13 2021 - 07:26 PM, said:

Thanks db for not getting angry with me for criticizing. If you made that graphics update, it looks good. I wouldn't hesitate to use it.

How should I take photos for a horizon? A few years ago I went to a place called Continental Divide Raceway south of Denver, CO. I was hoping to get pictures of the place in case somebody ever tried to recreate it for GPL. I couldn't get to the former track without trespassing but I found a place nearby that gave me a clear 360 degree view of the horizon. I took pictures facing 0 degrees (north), 45 degrees (northeast), 90 degrees (east), and so on, until I had 8 pictures of the horizon.



That's cool isn't it Paul. The track is still there virtually unchanged from the time it was used as a racing circuit. I think on a clear day if you looked west, northwest you can see the top of one of the Capitan Mountains but it would just be a small triangle above the horizon.

I tried to find some good aerial photos of the area but I wasn't very successful. I was curious about any changes in the vegetation and lake levels since the 1960s. I found pictures dating back to 1951 and water level in the lake on the left is rarely as high as we see in GPL. A photo from June 2014 was the only one I saw with similar water levels. June, July, and August are usually wettest months in New Mexico. That's fortunate for the area considering it's an arid to semi-arid climate.

I hope I don't irritate anybody hijacking this thread like I have.

Take care guys.

Hello JMF,

You simply told me what was not very realistic while I had without any reference added files just to look nice, but above all, and this is what makes all the difference, there is the "music" of your words that breathes openness and dialogue, how could I be offended ? On the contrary, I'm delighted if it helps to improve the rendering of this track, which is frankly brilliant.

Your comments are more than welcome :)

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Posted Jan 15 2021 - 03:17 AM

This track has beta status but has been updated by the community including flag marshals that are absent in the beta. There are also texture updates and AI updates. Many thanks and credits to the authors.

All these are included in this complete working and updated track folder.

Manual installation
To use -
Download and unzip the "Bottomless_Lakes_Complete_with_updates_2021-01-14.7z" archive
If you have the track installed you may want to rename your bottom track folder as a backup.

Copy the contents of the supplied "bottom" track folder to your gpl/tracks folder ( allow overwrite if necessary )

If you did not already have the track installed - add the supplied season information to your season ini

Download from our server here
http://gplracer.eu/f...s_2021-01-14.7z

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Posted Jan 19 2021 - 10:23 AM

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Posted Jan 20 2021 - 02:20 AM

SERVER REPLAY
http://gplracer.eu/f...R_2021.01.19.7z

RESULTS
Track: Bottom			 Tue Jan 19 20:36:28 2021

PRACTICE TIMES

Pos No Driver						   Team	 Nat	  Time	  Diff Laps
 1  14 Keni Blood 65					BRM	  SPA 3m29.594s			  8
 2  12 Piero Mercaldo				   Ferrari  ITA 3m30.616s   01.022s	7
 3  17 patrick cornu					BRM	  FRA 3m30.825s   01.231s	8
 4   7 Paul Skingley65				  Honda	GBR 3m32.131s   02.537s	5
 5  18 rew mellor					   BRM	  GBR 3m33.660s   04.066s	6
 6  22 mikele alboreto 65			   BRM	  ARG 3m36.211s   06.617s	4
 7  11 Greg 65 Taber					BrabBT11 USA 3m38.315s   08.721s	6
 8   1 Claudio Navonne65				BrabBT11 ARG 3m59.414s   29.820s	1
 9  19  GPLRACER						Brab BT7 GER   No time   No time	0

RACE RESULTS (After 8 laps)

Pos No Driver						  Team	 Nat Laps   Race Time	   Diff
 1  14 Keni Blood 65				   BRM	  SPA	8  28m18.363s			
 2  12 Piero Mercaldo				  Ferrari  ITA	8  28m18.525s	00.162s 
 3   7 Paul Skingley65				 Honda	GBR	8  28m18.933s	00.570s 
 4  22 mikele alboreto 65			  BRM	  ARG	8  28m51.482s	33.119s 
 5  18 rew mellor					  BRM	  GBR	8  28m57.582s	39.219s 
 6  11 Greg 65 Taber				   BrabBT11 USA	8  29m07.065s	48.702s 
 7   1 Claudio Navonne65			   BrabBT11 ARG	5  18m53.143s   3 lap(s) 
 8  17 patrick cornu				   BRM	  FRA	3  11m01.134s   5 lap(s) 
 9  19  GPLRACER					   Brab BT7 GER	0 DidNotStart   8 lap(s) 


Race results are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of race)

RACE FASTEST LAPS

Pos Driver								 Time Lap
 1  Piero Mercaldo					3m29.560s   8
 2  Keni Blood 65					 3m29.828s   8
 3  Paul Skingley65				   3m30.282s   8
 4  patrick cornu					 3m32.395s   2
 5  rew mellor						3m32.606s   6
 6  mikele alboreto 65				3m32.736s   6
 7  Greg 65 Taber					 3m33.395s   7
 8  Claudio Navonne65				 3m43.759s   4
 9   GPLRACER						   No time


LEADERS

Driver						   Laps
Piero Mercaldo				   1
Paul Skingley65				  2
Keni Blood 65					3
Piero Mercaldo				   4
Keni Blood 65					5-8

Number of lead changes: 4
Number of leaders: 3


LAPS LED

Driver						   Laps led
Keni Blood 65					5
Piero Mercaldo				   2
Paul Skingley65				  1


HIGHEST CLIMBER

Driver						   Start Finish  Change
mikele alboreto 65				   6	  4	   2  
Paul Skingley65					  4	  3	   1  
Claudio Navonne65					8	  7	   1  
Greg 65 Taber						7	  6	   1  
 GPLRACER							9	  9	   0  
Piero Mercaldo					   2	  2	   0  
rew mellor						   5	  5	   0  
Keni Blood 65						1	  1	   0  
patrick cornu						3	  8	  -5  


ON TRACK LAPS

Driver						   Laps/Total	Percent
Paul Skingley65					   (1/8)	  12.50
Keni Blood 65						 (1/8)	  12.50
Greg 65 Taber						 (1/8)	  12.50
mikele alboreto 65					(0/8)	   0.00
patrick cornu						 (0/3)	   0.00
Piero Mercaldo						(0/8)	   0.00
Claudio Navonne65					 (0/5)	   0.00
rew mellor							(0/8)	   0.00


RACE LAPTIME CONSISTENCY
(first lap excluded)

Driver					Avg Deviation  Std Deviation  Avg Laptime   Laps
Paul Skingley65				   0.461		  0.572	3m31.311s	  8
Keni Blood 65					 0.500		  0.701	3m31.220s	  8
Piero Mercaldo					0.772		  0.965	3m31.397s	  8
Claudio Navonne65				 1.508		  1.655	3m45.523s	  5
Greg 65 Taber					 1.683		  2.317	3m36.232s	  8
mikele alboreto 65				1.840		  2.333	3m34.922s	  8
rew mellor						3.642		  3.928	3m36.566s	  8
patrick cornu					 6.790		  6.790	3m39.185s	  3


All times are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of race)

Generated with GPL Replay Analyser


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Posted Jan 20 2021 - 02:44 AM

I dozed off in front of the TV and forgot to set the alarm on my mobile and missed the race. :(  :lol:

From what I have seen the track seemed to be stable.

Great that we managed to test almost all tracks of our 2021 schedule that we were not sure about if they run stable.

The only two tracks that are missing to be tested are Le Mas Du Clos and Cleveland (which is still under construction by Denis & Kelllaaa (-XK-)). But we will test both tracks during our summer break.

I was really surprised that so many drivers participated at our winter fun and track tests! At some races we even had a full grid. :clap:
A big thank you to all for testing with us!
And of course a big thank you to Paul, for your support!

Next week on Tuesday 26.01.2021 we will have our 1st 65 cup race at Monza67.
Details: http://neuforum.gplr....php?f=23&t=389

GPLRACER 2021 race calendar, mods and tracks
GPLRACER forum: http://neuforum.gplr...c.php?f=6&t=376
SRMZ forum: http://srmz.net/inde...showtopic=13842

Bye
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